This Use Of Boar as food on the Hoof is stunningly good!

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Read a post I now can't find on the "economics" of using captured Boars choosing "livestock Boar" option and waiting until the rest reported them as having the "fat" trait and it was so good I'm using it.

It is better than good!

So far I recommend holding a bit past the getting "fat" - might be luck but those I've held yield better food results. My last 3 "executed" (companion view screen - the double cogs - for manage companion) have produced about 120 units of Pork and more than that in grease.

My suggestion is invest in some "Saddle Bags" and add transport capacity. I put the pigs attribute points largely into CON aids carry capacity and Might add to the food generated (too soon to be sure)

"livestock" piggies only eat 2 per Boar per rest so Way into profit fast.

I have a whole sounder now (10 livestock piggies). The one down side is having to park them out of the way when auto deploy for combat happens

[goober shmoober]

Yup, boars are very efficient and I had no idea they could get that trait! However, I don't think increasing CON raises their carrying capacity, at least it doesn't work with ponies.

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It does in normal for both Ponies and Boars. 2 point of Con gives 1 extra carrying capacity. With Career Paths (an ability to make + in to ++ or a zip to a +) I only ever do ++ increases so see the change. CON affects Carrying Capacity and WIL affects Critical chance - blurb for the increase and stat also makes the point.


If you have a Boar long enough to get to that level they can get "Cart Boar" and that's impressive for carrying capacity. The attribute "cart Boar" is level 5 and adds 20 to the Boars carrying capacity. Add saddle bags at +10 and 3 cart Boars (as "livestock") can carry as much as a Pony and eat the same 6 units of food.

[Bob Meister]

But if you hold 10 Piggies on adaptive difficult, doesen't that mean you also fighting around 10 more enemys?

[Jimib4158]

I think the most cost effective is the food you cook tho

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I use region locked wouldn't know. As I have limited time I almost always stay on middle settings. Which Should Be the point of the games best designed balance for play through. With things getting less balance above or below.

On food for weight issues the best value is dried meat & fish - only 1 but only 0.1 in weight and only 1 in cost.

Herbal Teas - food value 6 up from Milk 2 and another product sometimes (nil - Hemp) some times 2 (blue berries) but still only 0.5 weight. Happiness add as a bonus

Bread - 2 no value items equalling 4 food,

Next are single cooked meats going from 4 to 6

Then non-meats that are directly consumable - only 2 but also only half weight

Then meats uncooked generally 4 but weight 1 (worst is Bear 6 food but weight 1.5)

Then cooked meals The best is mutton stew) these are 14 but most (except Mutton Stew, inputs add to 10 raw) have inputs adding to 12. What makes these good is the Stat buffs generated.

Worst is Alcohol generally just 1 food (though 1 happiness to) for 0.5 weight and generally a high cost 5 to 8 for that 1 food vs 1 for dried Meat Fish, 3 for non -meats and 6 for most meats.. I don't buy alcohol (except as an alchemy input - e.g. Brandy) - steal it and collect in in combat drops etc.

Pigs are generally 2 (for livestock attribute) and once "Fat" and held a rest or so more you get 30+ Pork , 30+ grease and A carcass (weight 2) to be dried meat If you have the weight allowance OR consumed instantly (note ghost pack carcasses can be turned into dried meat but not eaten directly & weight 3). I generally slaughter at the rest break so have only the "left overs" in weight.

[funkmonster7]

Unless it is changed, once a boar is "Fat" and has livestock attribute, you can keep it in the party until when you decide to slaughter it ... and get something like 100 pork and 500 grease.

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The values I'm seeing are less than that but still 50+ for a Boar held awhile. So I think it probably has been reigned in

[Eviltoy]

Give it later a recept for bear food?

[fireinthetrash]

As boar reach Fat status it give up 20+ meet (and eat 6 instead of 2 if you keep it alive). A few rests after ~50 meat. Wait awhile and it'll give you 150 meet. Maybe could grow further, didn't tried myself.

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Well the numbers do just go up & up if you hold the Pigs. Last one I slaughtered gave 140 Pork and 230 Grease - really on the excessive side.

I just checked and my "livestock" Pigs are still only eating 2 apiece. The patch might have altered things I don't know. Started using "livestock" pigs about patch time though.

[Bob Meister]

do livestock pigs participate in combats?

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Yes they do, it is an issue with low level pigs . you need to deploy them away from trouble as they are not very good in combat.

The up side is Livestock options give you greatly enhanced carrying capacity and they can have saddle bags.

Bad news is the guard strength calculation counts them as full companions but it also does that for chained prisoners to and your Ponies even the work ponies since the Update.

That way you get silly numbers in guard parties - me thinks someone stuffed that up big time.

[Bob Meister]

Ah damn, that really sucks if you play on adaptive mode. ^^''
Fights already take so long with like 12 people on each side, and adding more animals to the combat that just bumps up enemy numbers and do nothing besides giving food is kind of a bummer.

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Go with only 1 or 2 to limit the impact. Still get big food on slaughter (need to hold past "fat" attribute - got 140 pork and 230 grease of my last slaughter - have had it for a while)

[fireinthetrash]

Originally posted by Didi Bob:

do livestock pigs participate in combats?

Yeah, you have to keep 'em alive, as said above. But sometimes it's fun. Once i had two armored enemies chased my two piggies while i dealt with others guys. Both were too slow (you can easily measure enemy's ability to move) to catch pigs and was unable to help their buddies.