"Eyes in the back of their head" trait to a party of 4 or more?

[bard3567]

Guys. Has anyone given the "Eyes in the back of their head" trait to a party of 4 or more?

I got it by chance until the 2nd one, but from the 3rd I only got one through tedious grinding, and more than that wore me down.

It's hard to explain why I'm obsessed with this. Maybe i'm playing it as a kind of slot machine, but is it possible to give this trait to more than 4 mercs anyway? except manipulating chance by modding

Ps.What is the chance to get this trait?

[Stardustfire]

to get this trait you must deal with alot of discord in your group and on top with a high chance anotehr crewmember gets a bad trait.
it happens with high chance when you merc get attacked from an ally in the back, read: get shot by an allied archer who aimed at an enemy nearby. friendly fire has a good chance to worsen relationship, and archer have a good chance to get "crosseyed" when this happens

[bard3567]

Originally posted by Stardustfire:

to get this trait you must deal with alot of discord in your group and on top with a high chance anotehr crewmember gets a bad trait.
it happens with high chance when you merc get attacked from an ally in the back, read: get shot by an allied archer who aimed at an enemy nearby. friendly fire has a good chance to worsen relationship, and archer have a good chance to get "crosseyed" when this happens

Regarding the various details you mentioned, I have already been through it, and I am basically aware of the conditions for acquiring traits. However, what I want to know is that the "high" probability compared to frequent grinding attempts did not feel so high from some point on. So, I wondered if there were any limitations hidden by the developers on this (like the number of party members that could acquire or the cumulative hit stacks).

[Stardustfire]

in EA there where some discussions about Limits how much some Traits coud be aquired, but there never was a solid foundation, it ever was mostly guesswork, while some Traits indeed seemed to be hardlocked depending on the number of ppl reporting that Trait XY was only getable by 2 or 4 Mercs.
when we throw the fact in that the Traitsystem was revamped several times since than, we sail into very foggy areas.

[bard3567]

Originally posted by Stardustfire:

in EA there where some discussions about Limits how much some Traits coud be aquired, but there never was a solid foundation, it ever was mostly guesswork, while some Traits indeed seemed to be hardlocked depending on the number of ppl reporting that Trait XY was only getable by 2 or 4 Mercs.
when we throw the fact in that the Traitsystem was revamped several times since than, we sail into very foggy areas.

i see, info I was reading could have become meaningless between frequent updates, and I can only guess from my recent statistical experience.

Thx for reply

[fireinthetrash]

It's very pity that Shiro still didn't explain their trait system.

[Doro Boro]

I found a easy way to get the trait for all the mercs. Just bench the ones that have the trait already at an trade post and the chance of getting it increases. I was grinding like an moron and i couldn't get one for my 5 merc the same with glorious trait. btw if you don't want negative relationship just get an outlaw poacher to join your troop and he can do the arrow in the back thing, there is an camp event to kick them out as well for rp purpose ;)

[" THE BLOODY-NINE "]

Once a trait is on 4 or 5+ mercs, its spawns more and more rarely to never. I bench guys on purpose once they have the traits I want bc they now inhibit others from attaining said trait. Ex. bench glorious, tyrannical etc. I realize micro management and you should only do this if your really trying to get perfect builds for your crew. My guys all have 15 base WP with all the bonus Apt points, named, maxed traits. I have a few posts on this but again it may not fit your style to invest time into creating a max character.

[" THE BLOODY-NINE "]

You also have to reset the que at times. Meaning pick up a throw away merc, hear their confession and then dump them or get them killed ( procs grieving and thats fantastic btw ). This resets your que to baseline so you can get aptitude points and traits again ( meaning your like level 5 or so and things are grinding down/getting full ). Rinse repeat every in game month ( at least-depending ). More details in my older posts and the reddit post was mostly accurate.

[Solstius]

Originally posted by " THE BLOODY-NINE ":

You also have to reset the que at times. Meaning pick up a throw away merc, hear their confession and then dump them or get them killed ( procs grieving and thats fantastic btw ). This resets your que to baseline so you can get aptitude points and traits again ( meaning your like level 5 or so and things are grinding down/getting full ). Rinse repeat every in game month ( at least-depending ). More details in my older posts and the reddit post was mostly accurate.

... o.o... You're easily the most cruel and sadistic merc band leader I've ever met here... You have my approval!

[" THE BLOODY-NINE "]

More value in an Apt point than Dolf raised by boars taking up space.

[Aouregan]

I tend to get it when my archers pelt my own people accidentally :D