In it's current state, the game is worth 20 dollars?

[Biggus Dickus]

I love Battle Brothers and this one seems like an improved version of BB, thing is that EA games always make me wonder their value, some of them never get finished and others take many years to do so.

[tekk1608]

I have 151h without last Update.
Only one game with more hours in Steam.
So yes, for me 20Dollar was a nice deal.
(i didn't play BB, so no compare)

[veevoir]

I'd say 25-30 is more realistic. And by that - yes, it is pretty good already, the game loop, combat etc seems to be strong already, EA part at this point seems to be the content that is added (also see roadmap)

[drake_hound]

The game is worth more then 20 dollars :P period if you want to say 1 dollar is 1 hour of game play...

Sadly they seem to have stretch the grind a bit too far this time. but that will be fixed once the Gosenberg Newish runs out.
Yeah give it to gamers to run trough what Developers make for months is just Days :p

[Biggus Dickus]

Shiro games have a good reputation judging by Northgard (despite the DLC strategy) and Dune have some very good reviews as well.

Thanks guys, i'll buy it.

[[A]dderal Gaming]

always have been

[Psycohitman]

Originally posted by Biggus Dickus:

Shiro games have a good reputation judging by Northgard (despite the DLC strategy) and Dune have some very good reviews as well.

Thanks guys, i'll buy it.

dont forget the sunken ship named darksburg

[Biggus Dickus]

Originally posted by Psycohitman:

Originally posted by Biggus Dickus:

Shiro games have a good reputation judging by Northgard (despite the DLC strategy) and Dune have some very good reviews as well.

Thanks guys, i'll buy it.

dont forget the sunken ship named darksburg

I've never heard of it, and that tells a lot.

[Psycohitman]

it was dead very quick

[Neyreyan_Youtube]

its worth the price BUT keep in mind these are famous for releasing almost every 6 months a dlc in northgard and they promised 30 regions but went back on the promise and said the game will only have 7.
You can be sure they will dlc the hell out of this game, i dont think you will get away for paying this price without having to pay for another 5-6 dlc after

[drake_hound]

Originally posted by Neyreyan_Youtube:

its worth the price BUT keep in mind these are famous for releasing almost every 6 months a dlc in northgard and they promised 30 regions but went back on the promise and said the game will only have 7.
You can be sure they will dlc the hell out of this game, i dont think you will get away for paying this price without having to pay for another 5-6 dlc after

DLC isn't a bad thing , cause it is optional, infact DLC could be a good thing .. cause it prolong development and make new content available to gamers, who just can't get enough of it.

DLC is a bad thing if you suffer from OCD completionist attitude need to have everything complete.. but even then you can wait till sales to complete it.
DLC is a bad thing if DEVELOPERS abuse it by cutting out main content.

Now lets see the BUGS on Gosenberg release :P and lack of variety of enemies.
doesn't mean they hid away stuff. even the skill tree mastery again has bugs.
They are working really hard to squash bugs. is that content being cut and hidden away ?
As long it isn't EA (I still can't believe how much those Venture CO gets away with)
I give DLC the benefit of the doubt.

[Biggus Dickus]

Originally posted by drake_hound:

Originally posted by Neyreyan_Youtube:

its worth the price BUT keep in mind these are famous for releasing almost every 6 months a dlc in northgard and they promised 30 regions but went back on the promise and said the game will only have 7.
You can be sure they will dlc the hell out of this game, i dont think you will get away for paying this price without having to pay for another 5-6 dlc after

DLC isn't a bad thing , cause it is optional, infact DLC could be a good thing .. cause it prolong development and make new content available to gamers, who just can't get enough of it.

DLC is a bad thing if you suffer from OCD completionist attitude need to have everything complete.. but even then you can wait till sales to complete it.
DLC is a bad thing if DEVELOPERS abuse it by cutting out main content.

Now lets see the BUGS on Gosenberg release :P and lack of variety of enemies.
doesn't mean they hid away stuff. even the skill tree mastery again has bugs.
They are working really hard to squash bugs. is that content being cut and hidden away ?
As long it isn't EA (I still can't believe how much those Venture CO gets away with)
I give DLC the benefit of the doubt.

100% agree, DLC is not something bad per si, but some companies do abuse.

[Neyreyan_Youtube]

Originally posted by drake_hound:

Originally posted by Neyreyan_Youtube:

its worth the price BUT keep in mind these are famous for releasing almost every 6 months a dlc in northgard and they promised 30 regions but went back on the promise and said the game will only have 7.
You can be sure they will dlc the hell out of this game, i dont think you will get away for paying this price without having to pay for another 5-6 dlc after

DLC isn't a bad thing , cause it is optional, infact DLC could be a good thing .. cause it prolong development and make new content available to gamers, who just can't get enough of it.

DLC is a bad thing if you suffer from OCD completionist attitude need to have everything complete.. but even then you can wait till sales to complete it.
DLC is a bad thing if DEVELOPERS abuse it by cutting out main content.

Now lets see the BUGS on Gosenberg release :P and lack of variety of enemies.
doesn't mean they hid away stuff. even the skill tree mastery again has bugs.
They are working really hard to squash bugs. is that content being cut and hidden away ?
As long it isn't EA (I still can't believe how much those Venture CO gets away with)
I give DLC the benefit of the doubt.

It depends, before, a dlc would be called an expansion. Like Diablo 2 had lord of destruction expansion wich added 20% more content, more options and a lot of cool stuff that added many hours of gameplay.
A dlc these days is a very short expansion, meaning it can add 3-4-5 hours of extra gameplay and it introduces overpowered items or things for quality of life.

In a game like this, any dlc would introduce overpowered items and stuff that adds quality of life in game. And even if it just adds new content and you like the game, you have to buy it to fully enjoy the game or you will be always wondering what you missed.

A better example would be Outward where the dlcs introduced new areas but were badly designed but also had op items and quality of life things.

In the end, this makes it risky to invest a lot of hours and money into a game because it can change over time to be very bad. An example of that would be escape from tarkov.

So yeah, dlcs are not bad because you have an option not to buy them but if you dont like the games you play that much, then you are just bored like a cod or fortnite player:D

I could be wrong but we are feeding this early access/dlc industry and its ruining even good games

[Knatternick]

279 hours :) If you like such games it is worth every euro/dollar. And honestly, what's 20 bucks?

[drake_hound]

DLC were meant to be expansions , sadly like all good things.. overtime some people just milk it for all it's worth, but a DLC should always be optional. the maingame should work without the DLC or Expansions, but even that is being trashed on by example STEAM (valve)

So in the end tons of mini DLC isn't good either.. when they aren't rolled into the Maingame and given for free. but again coporate greed is the cullprit of this.

DLC done well is like people can select what part of content they want. get locked out of others.. same way expansions used to work.

But again tons of games that suffer from Greed issue. same way Mobile Apss are ruining the game industry with fast bucks and feeding to the need to compete and complete or gambling issue people have.

[FLY paladin]

I remembered that I paid more than 20 dollars. It was 30 something