Glaves and halberds for spearmen

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Glaves and halberds for spearmen

[Stardustfire]

you do alot of weapon demands that dont fit for the classes you want them on, do you? the 2 weapons you want thistime woud be more a axefighters choise because they are mainly for hacking at long range, not thrusting, like a spearman works....
not to mentation on top that a gleve is far away from an medival europe weapon.
cant wait you demmand machinegun arcebuses in your next thread....

[CCK]

Wait until there is a cavalry unit (superior guard unit), then may be more spearman varieties.

[Kruppe]

Actually the halberd is probably a good idea for a pikeman - (it's NOT a hacking weapon - it's a capture and pull in weapon (with it's hook) as well as a poking weapon) - the Glaive, however, yes, is a slashing weapon. The Functional Duo weapon is probably the closest to a Halberd that's already in play for the pikemen - it's just, really, not a very good weapon - note the Flurry of Blades also has a similar design - though it's missing a 'broad hook'

[Agent_b187]

Originally posted by Stardustfire:

you do alot of weapon demands that dont fit for the classes you want them on, do you? the 2 weapons you want thistime woud be more a axefighters choise because they are mainly for hacking at long range, not thrusting, like a spearman works....
not to mentation on top that a gleve is far away from an medival europe weapon.
cant wait you demmand machinegun arcebuses in your next thread....

The special feature of the pikeman is that he works from a medium distance, for which both the gleve/glaive and the halbert fit the bill. As for the stabbing - both weapons can be used for that (among other things, see below).

Like the halbert the pikeman underwent various changes. The concept of the pikeman changed from a soldier wielding a long spear or pike to wielding any weapon with a long staff, including halberts.

The gleve/glaive is a european weapon, especially in Italy of the 16th century. This has nothing to do with the usage of the word in fantasy movies and games. The word comes from 14th century french and probably originated from the word "gladius" (latin for sword) and means spear (pretty much like sword on a stick).

Originally posted by Kruppe:

Actually the halberd is probably a good idea for a pikeman - (it's NOT a hacking weapon - it's a capture and pull in weapon (with it's hook) as well as a poking weapon) - the Glaive, however, yes, is a slashing weapon. The Functional Duo weapon is probably the closest to a Halberd that's already in play for the pikemen - it's just, really, not a very good weapon - note the Flurry of Blades also has a similar design - though it's missing a 'broad hook'

Depending on the design, a halbert is a hacking weapon - and a stabbing weapon (poking not so much...) and a capture and pull in weapon. Why? Because it was designed to do all these things.

The term "halbert" comes from the German "Hellebarde", which consists of the two middle German words "halm" (staff) and "bard" (axe). So... yeah... it´s a axe with a long staff...

Although there are weapons around that could be described as halberts since the bronze age, the term became prominent with a long staff and an axe blade and (later) a pike etc. used by the swiss armies of the 14th and 15th century. From here the weapon became popular throughout europe.

The problem here is that the term "halbert" covers a LOT of different designs, which makes the discussion somewhat beside the point, especially because the guisarme (which is already in the game) is a form of glaive.

As far as variety goes we already have 2 different versions of spear, the guisarme and two different versions of the half pike/partisan in the game.

Which doesn´t mean there isn´t still room for improvement. A japanese naginata would be nice...

[Galactic Traffic]

Originally posted by Stardustfire:

you do alot of weapon demands that dont fit for the classes you want them on, do you? the 2 weapons you want thistime woud be more a axefighters choise because they are mainly for hacking at long range, not thrusting, like a spearman works....
not to mentation on top that a gleve is far away from an medival europe weapon.
cant wait you demmand machinegun arcebuses in your next thread....

hop off my ♥♥♥♥

[Stardustfire]

@cck if they really break the whole balance till now with horseman i woud expect goedendags as new weapon for spearman. this woud also fit the background of the group being mercs and not employed trained militaery.