Couple Trait

[subetai99]

Honestly, I just wish the game wouldn't try to make the mercs into couples. I don't care about gay, straight, whatever. This isn't about that. I've read it doesn't give any positive or negatives, so then it's pointless. But give me control to have them become couples or not. Personally, I wouldn't have any of them become couples. I'd have them get bounties, collect supplies and solve puzzles. Give US the option on what game we want to play, in that regard. Win/win imo.

[Quacksalber]

It's just there for a touch of realism as far as I can tell. People would hook up in situations like that, though they would also break up, have flings and so on. The only thing about it that annoys me is the amount of times people shack up with animals. I've had this happen exactly as often as people with other people, which seems just a tad too often, lmfao.

[ProjectCaddyGuy]

I had my first couple happen recently. It was a Female merc and a wolf. Unfortunately I didn't use the bear in my rotation, but clearly the wolf had better table manners and wassweeter than my other mercs. :)

[BedlamBetty]

it just locks the relationship in place so it will never decrease.
You don't have to let them get married, you have two options to not allow it, if you want the relationships to remain "changeable".
Letting them get married is a win for you, since you won't have to worry about their relationship anymore and could technically use that to get a title or a trait that requires hitting allies, or being hit by allies: such as eyes in the back of the head, or the title for an archer hitting an ally, for example.
It also allows you to concentrate on improving the relationships of the married couple with other members of the troupe, without worrying about their relationship anymore.

[Stardustfire]

or the title for an archer hitting an ally, for example.

you dont want this trait, trust me, "crosseyed" isnt a good one

[BedlamBetty]

Originally posted by Stardustfire:

or the title for an archer hitting an ally, for example.

you dont want this trait, trust me, "crosseyed" isnt a good one

not the trait, the title that appears under the unit's name.
They have the same name, but are not the same thing.
It may no longer be possible to get the title without also proccing the trait, I haven't tested it, but the title itself gives you the title and an aptitude point, only the trait causes a 10% loss to precision, not that that matters anyway, since it's not a good idea to rely on precision for hits anyway, and precision is only a factor when multiple units are in the trajectory.
You can still hug an ally and have no precision problems.

[subetai99]

Well, I've taken the advice and just had whatever two want to be partners be partners. Who am I to stand in the way of true love? lol It doesn't bother me in the moral sense, just don't think it really adds anything, either. Now if it came with more of a positive (it does say they fight better near each other, but haven't got any stats for that), then I'd be more in favor. I'm enough of an old DnD optimizer to want the right combination for powerful builds!

[Wandering Flare]

Originally posted by subetai99:

Well, I've taken the advice and just had whatever two want to be partners be partners. Who am I to stand in the way of true love? lol It doesn't bother me in the moral sense, just don't think it really adds anything, either. Now if it came with more of a positive (it does say they fight better near each other, but haven't got any stats for that), then I'd be more in favor. I'm enough of an old DnD optimizer to want the right combination for powerful builds!

Companions with +3 relationship get the Best Friends buff when next to each other in combat, a bit of extra damage, but otherwise completely marginal.

[Himelin]

Animal management in human/animal couples seems a bit weird to me. Limits should be put in place to avoid some ridiculous situations ...
But I think couples who fight together have combat bonuses.

[zaphod]

Originally posted by Himelin:

Animal management in human/animal couples seems a bit weird to me. Limits should be put in place to avoid some ridiculous situations ...
But I think couples who fight together have combat bonuses. :dwarven:

They only have the combat bonus that they got for maximum friendship (and you can have it with all companions at the same time), there is no other combat bonus for the "couple" itself.

Otherwise, I still think you're looking for a lot more behind that word than there is (the game doesn't really talk about any wedding when getting the title). I think it's not such a problem to meet people who for example like their dogs very much (and there's really no sex behind it).

[Wandering Flare]

Originally posted by zaphod:

Originally posted by Himelin:

Animal management in human/animal couples seems a bit weird to me. Limits should be put in place to avoid some ridiculous situations ...
But I think couples who fight together have combat bonuses. :dwarven:

They only have the combat bonus that they got for maximum friendship (and you can have it with all companions at the same time), there is no other combat bonus for the "couple" itself.

Otherwise, I still think you're looking for a lot more behind that word than there is (the game doesn't really talk about any wedding when getting the title). I think it's not such a problem to meet people who for example like their dogs very much (and there's really no sex behind it).

One of the texts during the post-rest event literally says "I'm going to ask [the other companion] to marry me, and then, it's off to see the priest!". None of the texts imply anything sexual but besides the "I think I've found my soul mate." one none can be interpreted as non-romantic, which would be weird if they're talking about an animal companion.

[zaphod]

Originally posted by Wandering Flare:

Originally posted by zaphod:

They only have the combat bonus that they got for maximum friendship (and you can have it with all companions at the same time), there is no other combat bonus for the "couple" itself.

Otherwise, I still think you're looking for a lot more behind that word than there is (the game doesn't really talk about any wedding when getting the title). I think it's not such a problem to meet people who for example like their dogs very much (and there's really no sex behind it).

One of the texts during the post-rest event literally says "I'm going to ask [the other companion] to marry me, and then, it's off to see the priest!". None of the texts imply anything sexual but besides the "I think I've found my soul mate." one none can be interpreted as non-romantic, which would be weird if they're talking about an animal companion.

OK, you are right about the first one (if there is such a text here).
I don't see anything sexual about the other ("soul mate" doesn't really mean anything like that to me).

[Wandering Flare]

Originally posted by zaphod:

Originally posted by Wandering Flare:

One of the texts during the post-rest event literally says "I'm going to ask [the other companion] to marry me, and then, it's off to see the priest!". None of the texts imply anything sexual but besides the "I think I've found my soul mate." one none can be interpreted as non-romantic, which would be weird if they're talking about an animal companion.

OK, you are right about the first one (if there is such a text here).
I don't see anything sexual about the other ("soul mate" doesn't really mean anything like that to me).

That's what I said, yes. Still, considering every post-rest event like that results in the game outright saying "X and Y are now a couple!", I don't think it's looking for more behind the word than there is.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3323707613
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3323708190
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3323708955
Saying any of that when the other companion is an animal would be extremely weird.

[zaphod]

Originally posted by Wandering Flare:

Originally posted by zaphod:

OK, you are right about the first one (if there is such a text here).
I don't see anything sexual about the other ("soul mate" doesn't really mean anything like that to me).

That's what I said, yes. Still, considering every post-rest event like that results in the game outright saying "X and Y are now a couple!", I don't think it's looking for more behind the word than there is.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3323707613
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3323708190
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3323708955
Saying any of that when the other companion is an animal would be extremely weird.

in the case of the same gender, I don't see any text about the wedding on your posts

[Himelin]

I think that human/animal couples (and I'm not thinking of the term "marriage") can lead to ridiculous situations, and I'm thinking especially of the speeches of certain characters who "don't dare confess their love to an animal" ...
I think the dialogues were created in a general way, and should be adapted for human/animal relationships.

[Wandering Flare]

Originally posted by zaphod:

Originally posted by Wandering Flare:

That's what I said, yes. Still, considering every post-rest event like that results in the game outright saying "X and Y are now a couple!", I don't think it's looking for more behind the word than there is.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3323707613
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3323708190
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3323708955
Saying any of that when the other companion is an animal would be extremely weird.

in the case of the same gender, I don't see any text about the wedding on your posts

That's just the texts I've gotten, there is a screenshot somewhere of another player that got the marriage text with a companion falling for a bear.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3269144155
Not the post I was thinking of but just to show that the texts are chosen randomly.