No hetero relationships in this game?

[Tom Cormie]

After 1,100 hours of play, it wasn't trying to establish a relationship between a man and a woman, just two men with each other. Couldn't there be a switch in the menu to turn this off? Or at least it won't happen again if I choose for them to remain friends! My same two male characters fell in love for the third time. Their relationship is falling apart for the third time because I'm not willing to play gay. This is getting really annoying.

(A team of 12 people, 6 men and 6 women, so I gave plenty of chances for men and women to fall in love.)

[Zeel Ara]

It's a conspiracy. They're all out to get you with the evil homosexual agenda. You should make an outraged twitter post about it.

[Sever]

Wow...so sorry to hear of this. This is disappointing.

If I understand correctly, the player has no control over what romantic relationships are formed between characters? In other words, if two characters grow in affinity towards one another, the player can't decide if the relationship will be romantic or platonic? The game decides for you?

I sure hope this isn't the case.

"God demonstrates his own love for us in this: while we were still sinners, Christ died for us." Romans 5:8

[hornsounder97]

Sigh.

[Tom Cormie]

Originally posted by Sever:

Wow...so sorry to hear of this. This is disappointing.

If I understand correctly, the player has no control over what romantic relationships are formed between characters? In other words, if two characters grow in affinity towards one another, the player can't decide if the relationship will be romantic or platonic? The game decides for you?

I sure hope this isn't the case.

"God demonstrates his own love for us in this: while we were still sinners, Christ died for us." Romans 5:8

Random event after rest. If two characters reach the best friend status, they are suddenly destined to fall in love. As usual, there are three choices. 1. You profess love and get the "couple" trait. (Maybe only cosmetic) 2. You wait for a later date. (negative team morale). 3. Stay friends. (-10 Morale and -1 Relationship).

If it only happens once between two characters, it's still fine, but my main tank and main melee DPS fall in love for the third time. Since I choose friendship between two men for the third time, their relationship drops again and they lose the "best friend" bonus when fighting side by side.

[Tom Cormie]

Originally posted by Ratley:

It's a conspiracy. They're all out to get you with the evil homosexual agenda. You should make an outraged twitter post about it.

I see, you got the point. Why is it wrong that as a 50-year-old straight man I don't want to play a gay character?

[Wandering Flare]

It's a harsh world, life is short and truly close mates are hard to come by. Just let it be how it is, at least you're not getting relationships with animals.

Real talk though, my company is 50/50 of hetero and ♥♥♥♥ relationships because by the time I got my 12 chosen few, it came up to 9/3 men and women, one of the latter never falling for anyone because she's an AoE-focused Vanguard. Not historically inaccurate or morally wrong anyway.

Edit: Well ♥♥♥♥ me, didn't know *that* is considered worth censoring.

[Wandering Flare]

Originally posted by Tom Cormie:

Originally posted by Ratley:

It's a conspiracy. They're all out to get you with the evil homosexual agenda. You should make an outraged twitter post about it.

I see, you got the point. Why is it wrong that as a 50-year-old straight man I don't want to play a gay character?

None of the companions are *you*, the game doesn't even have a company leader that doesn't participate in combat that the game refers to as being you like Battle Brothers. If you consider one of the companions to be yourself, make them constantly attack the same opponent as your target female companion and buff/heal her as much as possible while ignoring everyone else, it'll take a bit but she will end up being the one paired with you.

[Tom Cormie]

Originally posted by Wandering Flare:

Originally posted by Tom Cormie:

I see, you got the point. Why is it wrong that as a 50-year-old straight man I don't want to play a gay character?

None of the companions are *you*, the game doesn't even have a company leader that doesn't participate in combat that the game refers to as being you like Battle Brothers. If you consider one of the companions to be yourself, make them constantly attack the same opponent as your target female companion and buff/heal her as much as possible while ignoring everyone else, it'll take a bit but she will end up being the one paired with you.

I understand what you're saying, but for me it's a basic principle in roleplaying. As I wrote, my problem is that I put two characters in the friend zone, but the game wants to turn them into a married couple again and again.

[zaphod]

Originally posted by Wandering Flare:

Originally posted by Tom Cormie:

I see, you got the point. Why is it wrong that as a 50-year-old straight man I don't want to play a gay character?

None of the companions are *you*, the game doesn't even have a company leader that doesn't participate in combat that the game refers to as being you like Battle Brothers. If you consider one of the companions to be yourself, make them constantly attack the same opponent as your target female companion and buff/heal her as much as possible while ignoring everyone else, it'll take a bit but she will end up being the one paired with you.

true
+ leave them as close as possible to you in the camp and for those you don't want a relationship with, leave a greater distance....for distance, the green field that is in the camp below them is important (the animation of the character itself is not important)

[Wandering Flare]

Originally posted by Tom Cormie:

Originally posted by Wandering Flare:

None of the companions are *you*, the game doesn't even have a company leader that doesn't participate in combat that the game refers to as being you like Battle Brothers. If you consider one of the companions to be yourself, make them constantly attack the same opponent as your target female companion and buff/heal her as much as possible while ignoring everyone else, it'll take a bit but she will end up being the one paired with you.

I understand what you're saying, but for me it's a basic principle in roleplaying. As I wrote, my problem is that I put two characters in the friend zone, but the game wants to turn them into a married couple again and again.

I get roleplaying as one of them, but why would you roleplay as everyone? Half of them are women and otherwise probably have traits you don't share like being vegan or snoring.

The game does what a deep relationship between two people forced apart by outside influence would do - refuses to give up on it. You'll have to either stop policing what characters that aren't you feel or remove some of your companions and set up fighting pairs out of new ones to make them like only each other.

Or try Battle Brothers, I guess. Just avoid the exiled nobleman whose background flavor text is bedding another nobleman.

[zaphod]

Originally posted by Tom Cormie:

I understand what you're saying, but for me it's a basic principle in roleplaying. As I wrote, my problem is that I put two characters in the friend zone, but the game wants to turn them into a married couple again and again.

and about the roleplaying....basically, you are responsible for all the relationships in the game with your actions. You made them friends (your actions on the battlefield gave them a positive relationship). Don't complain afterwards that you didn't want it that way :)

[CavalierArcher]

I agree, we should have more direct control. I don't see the discussion as a political or social one, just a guy wanting to play a game how he wants. I get that and agree with it.

In terms of mechanics, you can encourage or discourage. Keep them together or apart in camp, have friendly fire or watch your blade swings. It can be done. but just firing one or both is fine too.

[Tom Cormie]

Originally posted by Wandering Flare:

I get roleplaying as one of them, but why would you roleplay as everyone? Half of them are women and otherwise probably have traits you don't share like being vegan or snoring.

The game does what a deep relationship between two people forced apart by outside influence would do - refuses to give up on it. You'll have to either stop policing what characters that aren't you feel or remove some of your companions and set up fighting pairs out of new ones to make them like only each other.

Or try Battle Brothers, I guess. Just avoid the exiled nobleman whose background flavor text is bedding another nobleman.

I think you missed the point. These are my two most important characters. The captain (protector tank) and the second lieutenant (ranger dps). They are members of the team generated at the beginning of the game, which I carefully created like a family. An old swordsman and a young ranger, like father and son, not a gay couple :)

[Tom Cormie]

Originally posted by CavalierArcher:

I agree, we should have more direct control. I don't see the discussion as a political or social one, just a guy wanting to play a game how he wants. I get that and agree with it.

In terms of mechanics, you can encourage or discourage. Keep them together or apart in camp, have friendly fire or watch your blade swings. It can be done. but just firing one or both is fine too.

I'm glad you understood my problem. When I play Mass Effect, the relationships are not randomly formed, but I decide whether I will court Liara or Ashley :)

[Stardustfire]

romance needs best likeness betwen 2 mercs, so it hardly depnds on what mercs cooperate with what otehr merc in the battles, and how near togetehr they are positioned in the camp. so when only your men works togetehr against the same enemys on the battlefield, and man and woman sit on different ends of your camp, you cant get a romance betwen them...
for me it was the second try of my Captain that already made a man/Woman couple (he was my start group swordsman, his first try was the start pony, but i talked him out of that, by advicing him to wait with the proposal)