Useless level perks for Work Ponies - especially level 12

[ARFett]

The game needs a full skill tree for EITHER work ponies or war ponies.

Also work pony perk level 12 +2 equipment is totally useless.

Other two level 12 abilities are...war pony abilities!

Instead of being able to have like 3 saddle bags on it you get the possibility of equipping only ONE kind of gear.

Meaning one saddle bag.

Only other gear so far for the work pony is a horseshoe.

So you got this one.

But the third slot is gaping open as there is virtually nothing else for work ponies.

It needs to changed so you at least give you work ponies like three saddle bags with the +2 perk on level 12.

That would at least make it useful and not a joke as for a level 12 ability...

[Nasarog]

Yea, I have to agree with this.

[Aouregan]

If at least your groups carry weight would scale with the ponies Const, but it doesn't. If it's not a war pony, all level ups feel completely useless.

[AgentX320]

collars don't work on ponies ?

[ARFett]

Originally posted by AgentX320:

collars don't work on ponies ?

Collars have only use in combat really.

And some like making your animals "love you more" are also useless as it has no effect on work ponies and their use as cargo animals.

[ARFett]

Originally posted by Kaeptn Bleibaer:

If at least your groups carry weight would scale with the ponies Const, but it doesn't. If it's not a war pony, all level ups feel completely useless.

Well, constitution raises still give your pony more carry capability.

But again as the work ponies only attribute useful is constitution again the random attribute raises give you nothing if you are not lucky to get Constitution.

[zaphod]

Originally posted by ARFett:

...But again as the work ponies only attribute useful is constitution again the random attribute raises give you nothing if you are not lucky to get Constitution.

You are right that the pony worker tree is the most sloppy in the game and needs a makeover.
However. In the new update, at least one collar was added, which can add at least a little happiness (it's nothing special and the condition for the bonus is stupid, but probably better than nothing).

But mainly. There is nothing like "...if you are not lucky to get constitution"! ....if you leave character leveling to random selection, then you are doing something wrong (do you know what the most important skill "career plans" in the compendium is for?)

[Aouregan]

Originally posted by ARFett:

Originally posted by Kaeptn Bleibaer:

If at least your groups carry weight would scale with the ponies Const, but it doesn't. If it's not a war pony, all level ups feel completely useless.

Well, constitution raises still give your pony more carry capability.

But again as the work ponies only attribute useful is constitution again the random attribute raises give you nothing if you are not lucky to get Constitution.

If I raise my ponies constitution and compare before after total weight capacity in my inventory, nothing has changed.

[n3mes1s]

Yup this have been an "issue" since always. Carrying capacity should at least be way bigger keeping in mind they are useless for everything else. And as you say once reached level 12, there is nothing for them. Not even extra sledgebags. Ridiculous. Why that 12 level skill is even available for work ponys escapes me. And yup, apparently it doesnt matter if you increase cons it doesnt seem to affect at all (increasing by one or two is completely pointless) to carrying capacity despite the description clearly saying it does. EA forever. What can you expect lol.

[Nasarog]

Also, they must be fast, otherwise it slows down your party on the world map. I tend to have very fast parties.

[asapa]

Increasing cons does increase carry weight, and has since EA.

Why do you, and I specifically mean you - the few players that post the same garbage crap about "EA forever", complaining about the same garbage crap that isn't even an actual issue, or making flat out incorrect statements about the game such as Cons doesn't increase carry weight(it does).

Here's an idea, maybe you're griefing because you're an upset doodoo caca pants child who can't get over the fact that they didn't implement the one obscure request you had during early access.

[Aouregan]

Originally posted by asapa:

Increasing cons does increase carry weight, and has since EA.

Why do you, and I specifically mean you - the few players that post the same garbage crap about "EA forever", complaining about the same garbage crap that isn't even an actual issue, or making flat out incorrect statements about the game such as Cons doesn't increase carry weight(it does).

Here's an idea, maybe you're griefing because you're an upset doodoo caca pants child who can't get over the fact that they didn't implement the one obscure request you had during early access.

Hm... I haven't seen the carry weight change at all. I did compare group inventory carry weight before and after level up of a pony, 2 cons points, no difference. It stayed the same. Maybe I am looking in the wrong place, but as a result I did expect my collective carry weight to increase, which it didn't. It was the exact same to the last digit.

[zAcEz]

It helps, but not significant until very high constitution.
IIRC for carry capacity, stocky > brawny when pony level < 12 or 13
After level 13 to 15, brawny > stocky.
You can farm level 15 horse from merchants at extreme & level 14 on expert once your whole party is level 12. Dont need to get too attached to those that join you earlier.

[Aouregan]

Originally posted by zAcEz:

It helps, but not significant until very high constitution.
IIRC for carry capacity, stocky > brawny when pony level < 12 or 13
After level 13 to 15, brawny > stocky.
You can farm level 15 horse from merchants at extreme & level 14 on expert once your whole party is level 12. Dont need to get too attached to those that join you earlier.

I am going by the tool tips for const which say 1 point gives you x points in carry weight. And that simply doesn't happen.
I always give my starting pony the stocky trait (you can customize it and its traits just like any other starting party member) and it ends up with way over 20 const before I even leave region 1 (Thanks to career path choice ability, which, outside of run, should be your first pick ever). I see no effect. Leveling up a work pony seems completely redundant, if you check the numbers. It is never going to be in any fight, so leveling anything else than const for weight seems useless. Stocky trait only gives you like what... 3 additional weight carry points?
I mean, try it out. Maybe I am just stupid or blind or looking wrong, but I do not see any effect.
To be fair... brawny seems like the better choice, but if additional const points do not give you extra carry weight, it is also useless. I do the comparison:
I check total group carry weight before level up, then level up pony, put 2 points in const., and... nothing changes? Even after closing group inventory and opening it again. The total group max carry weight has remained exactly the same.
What I think is that each pony has a set carry weight. That's it. You can add some points with stocky, but they have a base carry weight that otherwise doesn't change. No matter what you put in const.

[n3mes1s]

Originally posted by asapa:

Increasing cons does increase carry weight, and has since EA.

Not in the case of ponys. It seems to be that you need to actually play the game to realize.
Every time a pony gets their con increased, it adds like 1-2 more carrying capacity. So, completely useless. If thats normal to you , well, im not surprised i have you blocked.

[Aouregan]

Originally posted by n3mes1s:

Originally posted by asapa:

Increasing cons does increase carry weight, and has since EA.

Not in the case of ponys. It seems to be that you need to actually play the game to realize.
Every time a pony gets their con increased, it adds like 1-2 more carrying capacity. So, completely useless. If thats normal to you , well, im not surprised i have you blocked.

I do not even see those 1 to 2 points, if I am honest. The before and after level up numbers are exactly the same each time. I rather think they changed to a set carry amount per pony model. Probably because they saw people come along with a 50+ const pony carrying a house and its interior.
I would be totally happy with 1 to 2 points of extra carry weight per const point. But it's not there. The max group inventory weight number is not budging, if your ponies get extra const points.
And I would be more than happy to be proven wrong, because maybe I am just doing something wrong.