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FISHINGPLANET May 18, 2023 @ 10:03pm
Second town too hard.
Once I leave Tiltren with the border pass, the next town is just too hard for me to do anything in. Every fight just destroys my team and I can't get a foothold anywhere.
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Etxxu May 18, 2023 @ 10:23pm 
Originally posted by FISHINGPLANET:
Once I leave Tiltren with the border pass, the next town is just too hard for me to do anything in. Every fight just destroys my team and I can't get a foothold anywhere.
What lvl are you? How many cmmpanions and dicho classes?
It is my first save and I am founding It very easy. Try a 1h shield figther, 1 archer hunter, 2 rangers, the berserk you find in a quest in Tiltren and another swordman/warrior/brute, at leat lvl 4
FISHINGPLANET May 18, 2023 @ 10:51pm 
Originally posted by Etxxu:
Originally posted by FISHINGPLANET:
Once I leave Tiltren with the border pass, the next town is just too hard for me to do anything in. Every fight just destroys my team and I can't get a foothold anywhere.
What lvl are you? How many cmmpanions and dicho classes?
It is my first save and I am founding It very easy. Try a 1h shield figther, 1 archer hunter, 2 rangers, the berserk you find in a quest in Tiltren and another swordman/warrior/brute, at leat lvl 4
I have 12 in my party, levels 3-4. Not much good gear, though. Every encounter in Arthes is ripping my ass.
I'm playing on "Experienced" difficulty with region-locked settings.

And I've already done 90+% of everything in the previous town so...
Last edited by FISHINGPLANET; May 18, 2023 @ 10:54pm
charles leshrac May 18, 2023 @ 11:13pm 
Unfortunately the difficulty is self inflicted.

To keep up with the damage of enemies, you need to have weapons/armor equal to your level +1. In order to obtain those, you need to fight enemies of that level.

Part of the side effects of region locked.

You can compensate by crafting your own items (at certain levels), grinding until you reach those levels, or just turning down the difficulty (it’s a +/- 1 modifier to levels).
FISHINGPLANET May 19, 2023 @ 1:39am 
Originally posted by charles leshrac:
Unfortunately the difficulty is self inflicted.

To keep up with the damage of enemies, you need to have weapons/armor equal to your level +1. In order to obtain those, you need to fight enemies of that level.

Part of the side effects of region locked.

You can compensate by crafting your own items (at certain levels), grinding until you reach those levels, or just turning down the difficulty (it’s a +/- 1 modifier to levels).
It seems to me like the difficulty curve is a bit abrupt. Which requires, as you say, grinding in areas that are already too easy by that point.
RaideR May 19, 2023 @ 2:16am 
Just make sure you craft everything up to your lvl
Weapons and armour
Once your gang is geard up, even for lvl 4, it shouldnt be a problem
charles leshrac May 19, 2023 @ 2:16am 
Originally posted by FISHINGPLANET:
It seems to me like the difficulty curve is a bit abrupt. Which requires, as you say, grinding in areas that are already too easy by that point.

The game is designed around Adaptive, where this isn't a problem and where the scaling is "gradual".

There's no such thing in Region-Locked and how can you? You chose a game mode where certain areas have specific levels.

Again, you can partially solve this by just crafting your own gear at certain levels.

Or adjusting the difficulty (you can always adjust the difficulty at any time) to give yourself the +1/-1 adjustment that you might need.

If you wanted a game mode that wasn't abrupt or doesn't require grinding in the first place, that's what Adaptive is for.
Last edited by charles leshrac; May 19, 2023 @ 2:17am
Noquid May 19, 2023 @ 4:04am 
Exploration Mode: Region locked is an abrupt awakening if you head West into Arthes after finishing Tildren. It seems to me Vertruse to the Northeast-East would have been the better choice for me. The exact same thing happened to me when I entered Arthes BUT if you stick to the roads until you get to a town (Cortia) and grab the Easy missions, it's easier. I'm in Ludern atm and it's just an annoying area, kinda ruining the game for me to be honest. Tougher enemies, garbage loot, always running out of raw materials for repairs and so far only one "clan" has raw materials so you're making crap to dismantle for raw materials via your tinkerer. Boring.

Side question: can you go back to tombs and get Scholar items? Or are they a one-time structure? Scholar lectern is always empty.
agreubill May 19, 2023 @ 5:51am 
Originally posted by Noquid:
Side question: can you go back to tombs and get Scholar items? Or are they a one-time structure? Scholar lectern is always empty.

Tombs doesn't "refill" nor "refresh" if that's your asking. Once you've explored one, it's done. If i recall correctly, each tomb should give you 4-6 items to use in Lectern + a legendary one.
Also, you don't need to have anything in the lectern to get the bonuses it confers (exploration exp.), as long as you have a Scholar working on it.
Dilligaf May 19, 2023 @ 6:01am 
Originally posted by agreubill:
Originally posted by Noquid:
Side question: can you go back to tombs and get Scholar items? Or are they a one-time structure? Scholar lectern is always empty.

Tombs doesn't "refill" nor "refresh" if that's your asking. Once you've explored one, it's done. If i recall correctly, each tomb should give you 4-6 items to use in Lectern + a legendary one.
Also, you don't need to have anything in the lectern to get the bonuses it confers (exploration exp.), as long as you have a Scholar working on it.

You can go back if you have not got the items yet because you did not have a scholar. once you get the items you are done.
mkossakowski May 19, 2023 @ 6:04am 
Vertruse is a much better option for the "2nd region". Even though it's the same "level" as Arthes. I'm playing on region-locked expert/expert difficulty and I didn't have any major issues, even though the difficulty spike is quite high.
I went Tiltren, Vertuse, Arthes and then Ludern and finally Drombach. Ludern was brutal and I had to grind hard to get to level 8 to finish it.
Gregorovitch May 19, 2023 @ 6:58am 
Originally posted by Noquid:
Exploration Mode: Region locked is an abrupt awakening if you head West into Arthes after finishing Tildren. It seems to me Vertruse to the Northeast-East would have been the better choice for me.

I think Arthes and Vertruse are about the same really on Region Locked.

Originally posted by FISHINGPLANET:
I have 12 in my party, levels 3-4. Not much good gear, though. Every encounter in Arthes is ripping my ass.

If you have 12 mercs on Region locked you should be outnumbering the the early level 4 mobs in Arthes by about 3:2 so the only explanation for any arse ripping is gear.

Have you not crafted a complete set of tier 1 gear for your group yet? Have you started making oils after doing some rats nests? Have you done the Tiltren ghost hunt and got the recipe for the Stag armour layer?

With all of those in place you should be roflestomping early Arthen with 12 mercs.
goober shmoober May 19, 2023 @ 8:50am 
Oddly enough the eastern part of arthes is lvl 5 - 7 while the west is 3 - 5, at least it feels that way to me and it's a questionable design choice. As mkossakowski already mentioned, Vertruse is another option and my preferred one too.

But I gotta ask, did you completly finish exploring tiltren and not just the main quest? I usually hit lvl 4 / 5 and have my frontliners in ghost gear before moving on and it's not like I have to farm fights.
Gregorovitch May 19, 2023 @ 2:01pm 
Originally posted by H.U.N.K.:
Oddly enough the eastern part of arthes is lvl 5 - 7 while the west is 3 - 5, at least it feels that way to me and it's a questionable design choice. As mkossakowski already mentioned, Vertruse is another option and my preferred one too.

But I gotta ask, did you completly finish exploring tiltren and not just the main quest? I usually hit lvl 4 / 5 and have my frontliners in ghost gear before moving on and it's not like I have to farm fights.

Yeah, I did too. I actually open the roads to Arthen and Vertruse towns at L4 so I could do some trading but I didn't start exploring either in earnest until level 5 and kitted out with a fair amount ghost gear already. Part of eight at that stage. Arthes and Vertruse seemed about the same to me at that stage, very little difference in difficulty.
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