Thoughts on level up: CRIT vs STR (or DEX)?

[A boy named Sue]

Assuming the career plan cost is the same, do you guys usually go STR/DEX or CRIT?

Also has anyone actually tested that STR increases CRIT DMG? I looked at it on level-up and a +2STR at level 6 (up from 38 to 40 STR) did not change the crit dmg on the character sheet. It does increase base damage though.

[Kiban]

You need more than 2str to increase cri dmg, like 3-4 dex to increase 1 cri chance

[HozzMidnight]

Originally posted by A boy named Sue:

Assuming the career plan cost is the same, do you guys usually go STR/DEX or CRIT?

Also has anyone actually tested that STR increases CRIT DMG? I looked at it on level-up and a +2STR at level 6 (up from 38 to 40 STR) did not change the crit dmg on the character sheet. It does increase base damage though.

There is a stat guide in the guides section but, like you, I would just like to know should I go crit or str/dex when leveling up assuming I am good on Willpower and Movement. I have been going with crit except for my 1h Brute who has that STR based crit mace. Mainly because armor has plenty of either str/dex whereas crit is harder to come by.

[[Heretic]Rivga]

Originally posted by HozzMidnight:

There is a stat guide in the guides section but, like you, I would just like to know should I go crit or str/dex when leveling up assuming I am good on Willpower and Movement. I have been going with crit except for my 1h Brute who has that STR based crit mace. Mainly because armor has plenty of either str/dex whereas crit is harder to come by.

God this question has upset a load of people, there is a whole thread of people denying Maths to prove it.
So before I even start I want to say, there is no need to min/max in this game as it is easy enough even on hard - if I dont say this we will have 100s of posts saying it on repeat for the next month. And the below is JUST talking about Crt vs Str/Dex, otherwise we will have 100 posts talking about how stupid I am for ignoring movement and willpower.

The answer is not straight forward, in broad terms the Flat dmg increase of Str/Dex is eventually taken over by % increase on Crt.
The point at which the break even happens is highly dependant on your character, things like 5% additional Str traits change this. Calculation wise it is around 120 Str (or Dex if that is the toons primary stat) - again really dependant on a few factors. This is because Str/Dex have secondary effects not just flat damage, Str also increases crit Dmg multiplier and Dex increases crit change.

As weapons SOME weapons (mainly two handed) give +100 str and you start with around 20, you can see that IF YOU wanted to have the Strongest lvl 12 and was not bothered by the 1-11 then Critical Stat is how you'd achieve. The difference at lvl 12 is not very high though and a significant number are not even hitting lvl 12 before finishing.
Up until level 9-11 Str/dex is superior and in the lower levels it can be better by 10-20%.
Another thing to consider is One handed users do not get the same 100+ Str boost (that I have seen so far) and therefore find it harder to achieve the break-even point.

I am sure outside of a few Math geeks like me, Most people have now lost the will to live but in summary:

Two-handed weapon users:
1. If you JUST care about lvl 12, then go Crt out the door
2. A sweet spot is Str up until lvl 8, and pivot to Crt

One-handed weapon users:
1. All out Str/Dex
2, There is a particular Brute weapons especially that you will be glad to Max Str out on!
3. Ranger may be the exception due to back stab etc,

[Robin of Spiritwood]

Originally posted by HereticRivga:

God this question has upset a load of people, there is a whole thread of people denying Maths to prove it.
So before I even start I want to say, there is no need to min/max in this game as it is easy enough even on hard ...

I am sure outside of a few Math geeks like me, Most people have now lost the will to live but in summary:
.....

Thanks for posting. Have an award.