3 Star Armor is possible

[" THE BLOODY-NINE "]

Master Blacksmith with Swage. Crafted the base Rimesteel gambeson with 20 guard and 111 armor. Add layers and now overpowering for a level 8 warrior.

[Doom_Cookies]

Wait, was there any reason to believe that 3-star armor was not possible?

[" THE BLOODY-NINE "]

Not so obvious to newer players as all the old posts only lead to confusion on this topic. Eschew obfuscations.

[Gorm]

2 Star armor/weapons are what are given for completing 3 or 4 of the smithing challenges correctly during the Smithing minigame.

Completing all 4 of them gives you a small chance, based on your Smiths skill vs. the item being created, of getting a 3 star item instead of just a 2 star item. The stats are better, and in my experience a 3 star item is better than the next upgrade version if it were just a 1 star item (i.e.: Iron helmet *** > Ghost Helmet *).

This aspect of the game is not a "knowable" things to players as it is a semi-rare event, and it is just something you uncover with play.

Originally posted by " THE BLOODY-NINE ":

Master Blacksmith with Swage. Crafted the base Rimesteel gambeson with 20 guard and 111 armor. Add layers and now overpowering for a level 8 warrior.

I too, like the above poster have a tank heavy team. My team consists of 4 tanks with shields all with over 170 armor and ~60 total guard (before buffs) with Rimsteel gear. And none of them have 3 star equipment right now. One of the earlier Iron armor suits was a 3 star, which was great.

A tank heavy team of 3 or 4 with 3 or 4 support/damage dealers is very, very strong. At level 6 and 7, the tanks are often hit for 1 to 2 points of damage, and sometimes as high as 7 on a crit. Most battles are trivial, even against things like rat nests, bears and surrounded situations. Although, the Elite enemies still give me trouble (as they should)

[Stardustfire]

Completing all 4 of them gives you a small chance

when 100% is a small chance for you, what is a big chance than?
hitting all 4 plates golden glow ever gives the best outcome, the same as it gives you on top to 100% a 3th layer slot when you have the perk for it.
only thing is that you even with only 3 golden plates have a chance that you get the best outcome. (a to high one in my book, because it still seems to be 50/50)

[Gorm]

Originally posted by Stardustfire:

Completing all 4 of them gives you a small chance

when 100% is a small chance for you, what is a big chance than?
hitting all 4 plates golden glow ever gives the best outcome, the same as it gives you on top to 100% a 3th layer slot when you have the perk for it.
only thing is that you even with only 3 golden plates have a chance that you get the best outcome. (a to high one in my book, because it still seems to be 50/50)

I'm not sure what you mean, but perhaps this is difficulty setting dependent. That would be good to know.

I play on the highest difficulty, and when I do the mini-game and hammer all 4 perfectly, the quality of the item is the same 2 star item as if I had gotten 3 out of 4 perfectly + 1 normal hammering.

This includes armor slots. I've always gotten the max number of armor slots by getting 3 perfect hammerings out of 4 + 1 normal hammering, or 4 out of 4 perfectly.

Nearly all items I make this way are 2 stars in quality. If I'm lucky, I can get a 3 star quality item, but only if I do all 4 hammerings perfectly, and some further random chance.

My chances to get a 3 star item quality after getting 4 perfectly is roughly 1/20 or 1/15. Not common.

[zAcEz]

I find the current black smithing for 3 stars lenient but somewhat annoying.

3/4 good hits really feels the same as 4/4 good hits.
Perfect hits dont guarantee 3 star.

Its not easy to get Perfect hits (there's an extra glow & <0.8s window for Akhedian), I only do so 1 in 10 times, yet Im not rewarded with 3 stars.

The base 3 star rate feels to be about 10 ~ 15%.
That bumps up to about 20 ~ 30% with a Swage item.

Anyway, Im looking forward to the next update where the devs promised that blacksmith can upgrade the quality of items.

[Gorm]

Originally posted by zAcEz:

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Anyway, Im looking forward to the next update where the devs promised that blacksmith can upgrade the quality of items.

Hear hear!

[Solstius]

Originally posted by Gorm:

Originally posted by zAcEz:

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Anyway, Im looking forward to the next update where the devs promised that blacksmith can upgrade the quality of items.

Hear hear!

Oh Hell yeah. We betr hope that the upgrade part applies to gears we loot from the dead bodies of mobs cos some of those items are bloody good.

A FYI for players who aren't aware. The Swage raises the chance of getting 3 Starred Gears when upgrading. So, you can still get em under normal circumstances. The chance is just lower.

Also, you can get 3 Star gears even if you don't get all 4 hits perfectly, as long as you get at least 3 hits in, the chance exists. It's just very low and very random.

[lotsoffire]

I've got 3-star equipment before, but it is indeed rare. From my personal experience, I'm more likely to get a 2-star item from hitting only 2/4 golden plates than I am to get a 3-star from hitting 4/4.

[Yuri Kossori]

3 star is so rare i got my 1st 3 star when i got to Drombach county which is the last county i visited after completing the others and I save scum everytime i craft stuff just to make sure i hammered it perfectly thinking theres gotta be something higher than 2 star.
now that i got my 1st 3 star my game halted coz i keep save scumming now to get a 3 star equipment XD

[Stardustfire]

Ok, looked again, misinterpreted something, my bad, wasnt 3*

[Gorm]

No prob! - I think I wasn't clear before, honestly, and had to re-word a few things. Sorry for any confusion

[Solstius]

Wait... were you guys confused about the 3 Star talk by getting them mixed with Layer Slots?

[Stardustfire]

partly. my problem on top was that back in early EA you coud make out 3* easily by looking at your best armor states on the same armor, so i ignored the Stars now. realised my actual error first after i just yesterday got the smithy item with "the chance to create the best outcome" again in my actual game.
and it dont helped that before a armor needed 3* to get 3 slots...
im a perception victim of all the changes over time.