Smithing is more random

[TonYnoT]

Has anyone else noticed that Smithing armour is less predictable? Thee moment to strike has been randomized,
Really annoyed that My armour values have all been nerfed - ground hard and long to get top tier kit and they've reduced them all.
Not convinced by all the Helmet designs at all

[WingT74]

I noticed this at the very high tiers. unless, that's just when this change was implemented.

[LoveTruffle]

The moment to strike always seemed kind of random. Which is annoying because sometimes the window is so short it can only be hit if you click before the audio cue and if you try and anticipate an early click it will obviously botch hitting a longer timer. Really frustrating system.

[Blud]

Yep it seems they borked it up in the last patch. It may be as intended but, if so, it's a mistake and needs to be reversed.

[Jimib4158]

so just scum/save?

[nerdofanarchy]

Originally posted by LoveTruffle:

The moment to strike always seemed kind of random. Which is annoying because sometimes the window is so short it can only be hit if you click before the audio cue and if you try and anticipate an early click it will obviously botch hitting a longer timer. Really frustrating system.

Did they change the repeat? I just played it, the repeat still happens. So if the window is too short, let it go, it'll be back

[TonYnoT]

It Certainly is randomized. also on my system the save?load initialization takes an absolute age so it's too frustrating to do so, (by that I mean - hit save... wait... wait ..... wait.... box appears for Save file name... and then save) also the loading isn't exactly instant.

[Blud]

Originally posted by Jimib4158:

so just scum/save?

Will remember that next time I am forging, Thanks.

[Dala]

Originally posted by LoveTruffle:

The moment to strike always seemed kind of random. Which is annoying because sometimes the window is so short it can only be hit if you click before the audio cue and if you try and anticipate an early click it will obviously botch hitting a longer timer. Really frustrating system.

I'm on a new game, still early to tell but from past game it was not random. The higher the tier the quicker or shorter the timing. Not random at all.

[TonYnoT]

Originally posted by Dala:

Originally posted by LoveTruffle:

The moment to strike always seemed kind of random. Which is annoying because sometimes the window is so short it can only be hit if you click before the audio cue and if you try and anticipate an early click it will obviously botch hitting a longer timer. Really frustrating system.

I'm on a new game, still early to tell but from past game it was not random. The higher the tier the quicker or shorter the timing. Not random at all.

Just tried it again -I'm afraid it is randomized some of the "spark" strike times are a split second delayed so it is definitely out of rhythm. Lvl 12 characters and master smithing. It is for the Highest quality gear - i iwlll try a low tier item and see if it's easier and designed this way by the devs,

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To strike you have too be clicking as the sound is made to get a "yellow/perfect strike".

Generally there is a rhythm to it but it is not totally consistent.

More tedium replacing difficulty or learnt skill in the mini game

[ja.weston]

The thing is you can choose which one's to strike in any order, then your not rushing!
For the highest quality superior gear you need the Swage belt tool !!!!

[TonYnoT]

Originally posted by ja.weston:

The thing is you can choose which one's to strike in any order, then your not rushing!
For the highest quality superior gear you need the Swage belt tool !!!!

I don't follow you - the metal glows red before showing the white strike graphic, The order is in which the game shows. I have tested it - forging lower level gear seems easier (yes with the tool) but the higher level gear even at later levels is no longer at a consistent time sequence - as Brennan above has also noted. It's a deliberate hiccup to make forging a little more tricky.

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Is " Swage belt tool" an in game item or what?

I note that even with the tweaks 3 perfect strikes out of 4 is normal and in about 1 in 4 or 5 cases gives you a max item (for 2 stars)

I getting I'm getting 4 in 4 perfect strikes about 1 in 4

Thus I get the max about 1/3 to 1/4 the time. So mostly tolerable for wash reload and repeat

I do find that there is generally a rhythm to a "session" the problem comes on the 1st strike with a tendency to jump the strike and go early - if the first is out of rhythm / sync Just reload.

As I said earlier testing ones tolerance for tedium

What get me is the odd 3 star Item turning up sometimes these are many points better, sometimes not and no identifiable reason why it is 3 star. 3 star Rimsteel Battleplate is 1 Guard & 16 armour points better - about 10% overall. But the Rimsteel Light armour the difference is about 5 points or 4% ??

Not clue as to why from a players end. An added random chance?? but very capricious at best.

[ja.weston]

There is no set order in which you have to strike, you can simply sit there and choose when and which one to strike, the right time to strike is when the metal turns a sort of pink or at the same time the ring appears above the four plates.
Tedium but save before trying and reload if you get your timing wrong.
I have the Swage item as a belt accessory but it only works now and again.

[watcherzero]

Ive found the issue both with smithing and mining/lumberjacking that if you click on the shrinking ring/sparkle its a miss, possibly as the graphical effect is overlaid on to the object and its doing a check to see if the cursor is over the object.