If you are going to play around with Envoiremental instant kill damage.

[drake_hound]

Then please do it at level 4 or higher not at LEVEL 1 and 2 ...
Those lightning strikes is totally stupid at lowerlevels.
or failing that make First AID cost no valor points.

This is just asking for savescums.. cause of RNG .

[Agent_b187]

The damage inflicted by a lightning strike or a cave in is lethal no matter of the level, as it should be. You can use them to your advantage, either by kicking enemies into them or blocking them so that they remain in the red circle. Let nature do your job for you.

I can´t complain - in one of my last fights one lightning grilled 3 enemies in one shot.

Speaking of red circles: You have an entire round to get your characters out of the red circle indicating where the lightning/cave in will hit and you... what?... can´t get it done? Really?

[Yeyo]

my best friends for killing enemies in one blow, i love them! just place your tank in front of a circle (outside of it) and let 2-3 enemies agrro and go towards him and stay in, end of round job done!

[the evil one]

Originally posted by Yeyo:

my best friends for killing enemies in one blow, i love them! just place your tank in front of a circle (outside of it) and let 2-3 enemies agrro and go towards him and stay in, end of round job done!

+1 massive help in early days to take out forces you might struggle with normally
You'll start to fight in storms on purpose just to get the advantage of death circles
and luring the AI into them or pinning them in place with pike walls
The only really bad downside is NPC allies tend to try and commit suicide in them ( looking at you septelle )

[drake_hound]

That is what I dislike about FANBOIS they don't even READ ...

What does my POST say , Level 1 and 2 ... not about HOW OP and I don't care about anything Level 4+ that can kick and disengage with deflection and guard that makes those stuff trival.

[the evil one]

Originally posted by drake_hound:

That is what I dislike about FANBOIS they don't even READ ...

What does my POST say , Level 1 and 2 ... not about HOW OP and I don't care about anything Level 4+ that can kick and disengage with deflection and guard that makes those stuff trival.

That's exactly when the circles are most useful, but each to their own
Having something that can take out heavy armour in one hit when you're still in level 1 or 2 gear is a massive advantage to me
and lets be fair you're level 1 or 2 for what 20 minutes to half a hour ?

[[A]dderal Gaming]

lightning deals damage equal of 100% of your merh hp(or hp+armor), but it can be mitigated with defensive skills which gives 30% reduced damage or 70% reduced damage

[drake_hound]

Originally posted by the evil one:

Originally posted by drake_hound:

That is what I dislike about FANBOIS they don't even READ ...

What does my POST say , Level 1 and 2 ... not about HOW OP and I don't care about anything Level 4+ that can kick and disengage with deflection and guard that makes those stuff trival.

That's exactly when the circles are most useful, but each to their own
Having something that can take out heavy armour in one hit when you're still in level 1 or 2 gear is a massive advantage to me
and lets be fair you're level 1 or 2 for what 20 minutes to half a hour ?

Lets be FAIR .. some people like to PLAY HARD mode ok .. and the starting game is hardest already without some AI Lightning to mess things up....
As I said before nobody gives a F about those instant kill things after Level 4+
Infact not even if they are auto locking on your people .. cause of numerous of tricks to deal with them..

Like level 1-2 you can't even regain VALOR yet to first aid that crap.

[the evil one]

My son makes vids in easy mode , my wife plays hard battles hard management, I play hard battles easy management
I don't see what difference it makes , you're still level 1-2 for a very short amount of time
but if enough people hate the lightning i'm sure they'll change it

[drake_hound]

Originally posted by the evil one:

My son makes vids in easy mode , my wife plays hard battles hard management, I play hard battles easy management
I don't see what difference it makes , you're still level 1-2 for a very short amount of time
but if enough people hate the lightning i'm sure they'll change it

I am not saying remove it, but adjust it .. cause it is too much savescum when you are fighting hard battles at HARD and there is nothing you can do cause you cannot regain valor.
if they cannot fix that lightning to not happen below level 4. then make FIRST AID a free cost skill .. to solve it.

I don't care that in HARD mode it always seem to autolock onto my Characters it ads a nice twist. and a puzzle, but not at LEVEL 1 and 2, where there is nothing I can do about it then dying.

[Agent_b187]

Originally posted by drake_hound:

That is what I dislike about FANBOIS they don't even READ ...

What does my POST say , Level 1 and 2 ... not about HOW OP and I don't care about anything Level 4+ that can kick and disengage with deflection and guard that makes those stuff trival.

Careful with the name calling. i´m no fanboy for anything and I have critizised this game a couple of times already for stuff I didn´t like. I´ve read your post btw and do not share the idea that this is something to be introduced at higher level.

If you had actually read my post that should have been clear.

And yes, lightning is especially useful when fighting a higher level enemy with a low level group. The advantage becomes less with higher levels b/c at higher levels your group usually has the means to solve the situation without "devine intervention" anyway.

[drake_hound]

Originally posted by Agent_b187:

Originally posted by drake_hound:

That is what I dislike about FANBOIS they don't even READ ...

What does my POST say , Level 1 and 2 ... not about HOW OP and I don't care about anything Level 4+ that can kick and disengage with deflection and guard that makes those stuff trival.

Careful with the name calling. i´m no fanboy for anything and I have critizised this game a couple of times already for stuff I didn´t like. I´ve read your post btw and do not share the idea that this is something to be introduced at higher level.

If you had actually read my post that should have been clear.

And again what does your comment have to do with my Original POST ?
Can't you read that it says 1-2 what does my level 1-2 have to do with CAVE or endgame stuff , where you have tons of options to get out of that stuff.
Like taking deflection for one , regain valore to heal if it is dying.

So when you want others to read your post, LEARN TO READ OTHERS POST FIRST !

[Agent_b187]

Originally posted by drake_hound:

Originally posted by Agent_b187:

Careful with the name calling. i´m no fanboy for anything and I have critizised this game a couple of times already for stuff I didn´t like. I´ve read your post btw and do not share the idea that this is something to be introduced at higher level.

If you had actually read my post that should have been clear.

And again what does your comment have to do with my Original POST ?
Can't you read that it says 1-2 what does my level 1-2 have to do with CAVE or endgame stuff , where you have tons of options to get out of that stuff.
Like taking deflection for one , regain valore to heal if it is dying.

So when you want others to read your post, LEARN TO READ OTHERS POST FIRST !

Neither lightning nor cave in are endgame stuff. There is a mission in a cave right in the beginning area. Lightning depends on the weather (surprise, surprise) when you pick the fight. And again, you have an entire round to get your characters to safety. Using deflection etc. is not necessary.

Have you actually played Wartales?

[drake_hound]

Originally posted by Agent_b187:

Originally posted by drake_hound:

And again what does your comment have to do with my Original POST ?
Can't you read that it says 1-2 what does my level 1-2 have to do with CAVE or endgame stuff , where you have tons of options to get out of that stuff.
Like taking deflection for one , regain valore to heal if it is dying.

So when you want others to read your post, LEARN TO READ OTHERS POST FIRST !

Neither lightning nor cave in are endgame stuff. There is a mission in a cave right in the beginning area. Lightning depends on the weather (surprise, surprise) when you pick the fight. And again, you have an entire round to get your characters to safety. Using deflection etc. is not necessary.

Have you actually played Wartales?

Have I actually played wartales ROFL lmao why do I say LEVEL 4 instead of LEVEL 3 ..
use your brain for once .. when level 3 is the first Valor gain since rebuild instead of level 2.
Any more smart comment that fails .. why level 4 to stop instant death again, cause your one Valor regainer is tied up someplace not able to regain valor.

So anything else mister I know it all but can't even figure out a simple solution.

[Stardustfire]

for trolling post this is not totaly bad made, but not good also. even at lvl 1 my mercs already have a move order, and i already can use it to move out of the circles that are present until THE LAST ACTOR of a turn when thsi things happen. if you are not able to avoid a simple big circle with a move action Wartales isnt for you.

[Jacques De Gautier]

Somebody didn't think ahead and he wants the game changed before trying a different approach... seems legit.