Armor & Guard

[rompier02]

Hi. How do these co relate with each other. Wiki doesn't explain. Thanks.

[Dorim]

Guard reduces incoming damage by the guard percentage amount as long as a unit has any armor "health" left - meaning once your armor is broken you no longer get damage reduction from guard.

[rompier02]

From your explanation - if I use an ability to lower guard to 0% for 2 rounds, then only armor would hinder my hits on the enemy? Or would my hits ignore armor? In 1 battle a same level Hired Killer hit my girl who is a 2 H . She suffered armor damage & health in that same attack. She has no guard but her armor is full at that time. Thanks for your reply. Trying to understand this.

[benji27potf]

Your hit will still damage the armor first just no damage reduction takes place. Unless you have units (Mosquito) or an oil that allows hp damage directly.

[rompier02]

So armor will still impede direct damage to hp even when enemy guard is reduced to 0? I loaded my save where the HK hit my 2H Hammer girl. She actually has guard - 25 % from superior plate. The HK hit damaged armor & HP. Maybe the attacker blade storm skill is an AOE attack? That is what caused this?

[Lt Awesomesauce]

Some weapons and enemies have abilities that bypass armor completely. Mosquitoes are an extreme example of this but it does happen. Just gotta take it in stride xD

[Dorim]

Originally posted by rompier02:

So armor will still impede direct damage to hp even when enemy guard is reduced to 0? I loaded my save where the HK hit my 2H Hammer girl. She actually has guard - 25 % from superior plate. The HK hit damaged armor & HP. Maybe the attacker blade storm skill is an AOE attack? That is what caused this?

What enemy faction/leader were you fighting? There is a specific spearman leader type (the one that uses the legion 4 hit spear) that provides a buff to his troops that allow them to deal 5% hp damage every hit, even before armor is broken. I suspect that is what you're encountering.

[rompier02]

It was a merchant party. At the start of the battle there is a statement stating something like ' at this level the enemies use better tactics..' They got Arrows with them. They were same level as my party.

[BedlamBetty]

How much damage was dealt? If the damage is more than enough to reduce the armour to zero, it is possible it will also deal some hp damage in the process.
With the new update, 25% guard is really nothing, Enemy buffs, whether difficulty or other, that affect stats apply to total not base now, meaning that the difference for the hard difficulty buff, which raises con, dex and str by 40% is greater than the 25% dmg reduction: in other words, the difference in dmg between what they used to do and what they now do is greater than 25%

[rompier02]

Damage was not too much. each hit by the Hired Killer will deplete armor & health at the same time.

[BedlamBetty]

it's the leader ability