Vernalis or Laheart?

[Gezza]

If I was to choose between them, who should I side? I'm torn

[General Malaise]

Neither are admirable. I hate religious zealots though. You have to be careful what you do anyway. The choice you appear to be making is not always clear. I ended up siding with one one time and the other the time after, but I wanted Laheart both times.

Pretty sure I fought the well poisoners both times, so I don't think it was that.

[Thorgott]

There is a difference getting recipe of cooking before fighting against Vernalis.

[Nelsons other eye]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2806014159

Killed them both and took all the gold, screw both lords, they drop level 11 swords and spears :)
Assume it's a bug but the Vernalis captain dropped 2 spears on death and then I looted his still warm twitching corpse for a one star spear

[General Malaise]

Originally posted by Thorgott:

There is a difference getting recipe of cooking before fighting against Vernalis.

I got that, even when I fought against him. I just fight the well poisoners, then she'll sell it to you.

[BedlamBetty]

Despite his religious zealotry, Vernalis is the better choice.
They are both pretty bad, but Vernalis has the backing of the peasantry and the church. While that may not seem like much, it does mean that even should Vernalis lose, the church will continue supporting the peasantry in defying Laheart, leading to further bloodshed, famine and unrest.
Once there are more regions and a larger structure involved the choice may change, but at the moment, the best way to stop the population's suffering is to side with Vernalis.
Killing both would also lead to bad results, as the region descends into complete anarchy and banditry will rise.
This is all roleplay of course, since decisions don't actually have any far reaching consequences atm

[State Line Crosser]

I wish the legion route was more advertised. I tried to play both sides but that just ended up with me on vernalis' side. I only find out later that through a certain set of steps you can pick a third option.

[Nelsons other eye]

Originally posted by BedlamBetty:

Despite his religious zealotry, Vernalis is the better choice.
They are both pretty bad, but Vernalis has the backing of the peasantry and the church. While that may not seem like much, it does mean that even should Vernalis lose, the church will continue supporting the peasantry in defying Laheart, leading to further bloodshed, famine and unrest.
Once there are more regions and a larger structure involved the choice may change, but at the moment, the best way to stop the population's suffering is to side with Vernalis.
Killing both would also lead to bad results, as the region descends into complete anarchy and banditry will rise.
This is all roleplay of course, since decisions don't actually have any far reaching consequences atm

""descends into complete anarchy and banditry will rise.""

?? and what's wrong with that ?

[BedlamBetty]

Originally posted by Nelsons other eye:

Originally posted by BedlamBetty:

Despite his religious zealotry, Vernalis is the better choice.
They are both pretty bad, but Vernalis has the backing of the peasantry and the church. While that may not seem like much, it does mean that even should Vernalis lose, the church will continue supporting the peasantry in defying Laheart, leading to further bloodshed, famine and unrest.
Once there are more regions and a larger structure involved the choice may change, but at the moment, the best way to stop the population's suffering is to side with Vernalis.
Killing both would also lead to bad results, as the region descends into complete anarchy and banditry will rise.
This is all roleplay of course, since decisions don't actually have any far reaching consequences atm

""descends into complete anarchy and banditry will rise.""

?? and what's wrong with that ?

Nothing if that's your goal obviously. I was speaking of a roleplay choice to help reduce the suffering of the general populace. It's a game so it doesn't matter anyway, but if the goal is as I stated, Vernalis is the best choice.

[the evil one]

Originally posted by BedlamBetty:

Originally posted by Nelsons other eye:

""descends into complete anarchy and banditry will rise.""

?? and what's wrong with that ?

Nothing if that's your goal obviously. I was speaking of a roleplay choice to help reduce the suffering of the general populace. It's a game so it doesn't matter anyway, but if the goal is as I stated, Vernalis is the best choice.

If you just kill everyone you can, captain, commander ,priest, it's the legion who give you the final mission
and they take the whole region over, so you get to kill vernalis and what his face too in the final battle as they decide to join forces vs the legion
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2809456120

btw you need to kill the guys poisoning the well as well to get that result
and send the deserters to learhart
so basically you helped/hindered both sides equally and cause the legion mission to trigger

Which is a far better ending imo

[Nelsons other eye]

Originally posted by BedlamBetty:

Despite his religious zealotry, Vernalis is the better choice.
They are both pretty bad, but Vernalis has the backing of the peasantry and the church. While that may not seem like much, it does mean that even should Vernalis lose, the church will continue supporting the peasantry in defying Laheart, leading to further bloodshed, famine and unrest.
Once there are more regions and a larger structure involved the choice may change, but at the moment, the best way to stop the population's suffering is to side with Vernalis.
Killing both would also lead to bad results, as the region descends into complete anarchy and banditry will rise.
This is all roleplay of course, since decisions don't actually have any far reaching consequences atm

Kill them all and let the legion rule, everyone is better off then
Except the lords ofc because I just chopped both their heads off

And the captain and commander may be a bit worse off as I chopped their heads off too
and maybe the priest is a little worse for the wear after I chopped his head off too

But other than those and the 100s of innocent troops just following orders( heads off the lot of them) the five people left alive in Arthes are much better off now

There's way more room for each person for one thing

[BedlamBetty]

Originally posted by Nelsons other eye:

Originally posted by BedlamBetty:

Despite his religious zealotry, Vernalis is the better choice.
They are both pretty bad, but Vernalis has the backing of the peasantry and the church. While that may not seem like much, it does mean that even should Vernalis lose, the church will continue supporting the peasantry in defying Laheart, leading to further bloodshed, famine and unrest.
Once there are more regions and a larger structure involved the choice may change, but at the moment, the best way to stop the population's suffering is to side with Vernalis.
Killing both would also lead to bad results, as the region descends into complete anarchy and banditry will rise.
This is all roleplay of course, since decisions don't actually have any far reaching consequences atm

Kill them all and let the legion rule, everyone is better off then
Except the lords ofc because I just chopped both their heads off

And the captain and commander may be a bit worse off as I chopped their heads off too
and maybe the priest is a little worse for the wear after I chopped his head off too

But other than those and the 100s of innocent troops just following orders( heads off the lot of them) the five people left alive in Arthes are much better off now

There's way more room for each person for one thing

So you can't complete the legion mission for the deserters to get the Legion ending?

[the evil one]

Originally posted by BedlamBetty:

Originally posted by Nelsons other eye:

Kill them all and let the legion rule, everyone is better off then
Except the lords ofc because I just chopped both their heads off

And the captain and commander may be a bit worse off as I chopped their heads off too
and maybe the priest is a little worse for the wear after I chopped his head off too

But other than those and the 100s of innocent troops just following orders( heads off the lot of them) the five people left alive in Arthes are much better off now

There's way more room for each person for one thing

So you can't complete the legion mission for the deserters to get the Legion ending?

I would assume you have to skip that altogether, I never went the camp or I would have picked the mission up and missed the legion ending
You get a message saying go to the legion camp, and he goes off on a rant that if neither lord can see their being played by a bunch of mercs and are both incapable of stopping them then it's time the legion took over
And neither lord deserves to rule

[General Malaise]

Originally posted by Nelsons other eye:

Originally posted by BedlamBetty:

Despite his religious zealotry, Vernalis is the better choice.
They are both pretty bad, but Vernalis has the backing of the peasantry and the church. While that may not seem like much, it does mean that even should Vernalis lose, the church will continue supporting the peasantry in defying Laheart, leading to further bloodshed, famine and unrest.
Once there are more regions and a larger structure involved the choice may change, but at the moment, the best way to stop the population's suffering is to side with Vernalis.
Killing both would also lead to bad results, as the region descends into complete anarchy and banditry will rise.
This is all roleplay of course, since decisions don't actually have any far reaching consequences atm

Kill them all and let the legion rule, everyone is better off then
Except the lords ofc because I just chopped both their heads off

And the captain and commander may be a bit worse off as I chopped their heads off too
and maybe the priest is a little worse for the wear after I chopped his head off too

But other than those and the 100s of innocent troops just following orders( heads off the lot of them) the five people left alive in Arthes are much better off now

There's way more room for each person for one thing

:D

[Kruppe]

tbh it really doesn't matter - best is to wait until your mercs are all lv9 before fighting them - that way you can maximize weapon and armour drops for your camp chest - at this stage I have lv11 weapons and armour for every member of my merc company with every type of weapon - for example i've got all the lv11 axes, hammers, maces, swords, etc to choose from with or without using a shield. when first starting you kinda don't realize this as a need but after 3 different runs it certainly maximizes your choices for fighting in different counties

[BedlamBetty]

Originally posted by the evil one:

Originally posted by BedlamBetty:

So you can't complete the legion mission for the deserters to get the Legion ending?

I would assume you have to skip that altogether, I never went the camp or I would have picked the mission up and missed the legion ending
You get a message saying go to the legion camp, and he goes off on a rant that if neither lord can see their being played by a bunch of mercs and are both incapable of stopping them then it's time the legion took over
And neither lord deserves to rule

As long as you've killed the monk and hostes, it doesn't matter what else you've done, the legion calls you in