Stargate: Timekeepers

Stargate: Timekeepers

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Sebsch天皇 6 DIC 2023 a las 5:10 p. m.
Love Stargate | Low expectations for this game.
As i said. I love Stargate Even SGU. I rly want a game using this kind of franchise to succeed but i have my doubts. Reading some of the discussions i think this game will suck a lot. Already watching the previous gameplays was a pain. Seemed very boring and not at all providing the typical Stargate flair. I hope i am wrong but ♥♥♥♥. Why dont make an action first person RPG with the Stargate lore? Its so obvious. Would be a better Starfield.
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Gay Lord 22 ENE 2024 a las 5:23 p. m. 
Spent the last month or so watching the Stargate series for the first time. Currently on season 4 of Atlantis. Dreading that it's going to end soon and the reboot show is in Amazon's hands and seems to be in development hell...

Decided to look up if there was/is any Stargate games. Besides some online shooter and some gameboy/snes tetris clone, this seems to be the only actually developed game. And it's releasing extremely soon, so what timing!

I haven't tried the demo (yet) so I can't really make any actual formed opinions, but I do agree with other people on this thread. Stargate doesn't really seem fit the RTS genre that well, I think.

I know the developers' other games and they absolutely can make great RTS games (Starship Troopers, Gladius), so I'm sure the game will be a good RTS game. But not a good Stargate game.

When I was thinking of a Stargate game, the first game that came to mind was Starfield. If Starfield wasn't it's own IP and instead used the Stargate IP, travelling and exploring between procedurally generated planets via the Stargate with Starfield's mechanics and gameplay would've been awesome imo.

Ah well. It seems to be a curse with these less-popular sci-fi franchises. Star Trek/Stargate/Battlestar etc. seem doomed to subpar games for the rest of time while Star Wars thrives. :(

EITHER WAY, thank you devs for making a Stargate game regardless. And I know you guys will make it a great RTS. I'll most likely pick it up just because it's Stargate and maybe that'll entice further games in the franchise. idk.
Sebsch天皇 22 ENE 2024 a las 5:30 p. m. 
Publicado originalmente por Gay Lord:
Spent the last month or so watching the Stargate series for the first time. Currently on season 4 of Atlantis. Dreading that it's going to end soon and the reboot show is in Amazon's hands and seems to be in development hell...

Decided to look up if there was/is any Stargate games. Besides some online shooter and some gameboy/snes tetris clone, this seems to be the only actually developed game. And it's releasing extremely soon, so what timing!

I haven't tried the demo (yet) so I can't really make any actual formed opinions, but I do agree with other people on this thread. Stargate doesn't really seem fit the RTS genre that well, I think.

I know the developers' other games and they absolutely can make great RTS games (Starship Troopers, Gladius), so I'm sure the game will be a good RTS game. But not a good Stargate game.

When I was thinking of a Stargate game, the first game that came to mind was Starfield. If Starfield wasn't it's own IP and instead used the Stargate IP, travelling and exploring between procedurally generated planets via the Stargate with Starfield's mechanics and gameplay would've been awesome imo.

Ah well. It seems to be a curse with these less-popular sci-fi franchises. Star Trek/Stargate/Battlestar etc. seem doomed to subpar games for the rest of time while Star Wars thrives. :(

EITHER WAY, thank you devs for making a Stargate game regardless. And I know you guys will make it a great RTS. I'll most likely pick it up just because it's Stargate and maybe that'll entice further games in the franchise. idk.

I must agree with most of what you said. I rly hope this game wont fail as hard as i believe it to. The demo was horrible tho. I spent 10 mins it it. Had to quit because this rly isnt for me. Most ppls will feel that way. I hope some ppl will at least enjoy it. Most wont. And again thx to the devs for making a demo avalible so players can see for themselves. And yes a Starfield like Stargate game would be what a lot of ppl would like. Guess the only issue rly is MGM/Amazon with the license. And probably a developer who seeks great risk. lol

Stargate Atlantis is my favorite Sci-fy series for sure. Tho it has its bad moments i rly love most of the episodes. I watch it so much i can sync quite a lot of the dialogues. Just keep watching season 5 its pretty good. Not my favorite season but it got its moments. My fav seasons are porbably 2 and 3? i dunno never actually thought about it so far. Back in the days a even started a "Save Stargate Atlantis" Facebook page. lol Wasnt rly successful but had its few hundred subs. I rly like the plots with Michael and Todd. Acutally what i probably like most is the dynamic of the whole team and "side characters" like Dr. Zelenka and Dr. Beckett, Ltd Lorne, etc.
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Trinity Embers 22 ENE 2024 a las 7:37 p. m. 
Publicado originalmente por Gay Lord:
Spent the last month or so watching the Stargate series for the first time. Currently on season 4 of Atlantis. Dreading that it's going to end soon and the reboot show is in Amazon's hands and seems to be in development hell...

Decided to look up if there was/is any Stargate games. Besides some online shooter and some gameboy/snes tetris clone, this seems to be the only actually developed game. And it's releasing extremely soon, so what timing!

I haven't tried the demo (yet) so I can't really make any actual formed opinions, but I do agree with other people on this thread. Stargate doesn't really seem fit the RTS genre that well, I think.

I know the developers' other games and they absolutely can make great RTS games (Starship Troopers, Gladius), so I'm sure the game will be a good RTS game. But not a good Stargate game.

When I was thinking of a Stargate game, the first game that came to mind was Starfield. If Starfield wasn't it's own IP and instead used the Stargate IP, travelling and exploring between procedurally generated planets via the Stargate with Starfield's mechanics and gameplay would've been awesome imo.

Ah well. It seems to be a curse with these less-popular sci-fi franchises. Star Trek/Stargate/Battlestar etc. seem doomed to subpar games for the rest of time while Star Wars thrives. :(

EITHER WAY, thank you devs for making a Stargate game regardless. And I know you guys will make it a great RTS. I'll most likely pick it up just because it's Stargate and maybe that'll entice further games in the franchise. idk.
What u posted here was probably the most fair comment on this entire forum. Nicely put
Meridian Bunghole 23 ENE 2024 a las 2:06 a. m. 
Publicado originalmente por Inquerion:

Why you decided to make a Stargate game set in such a niche genre (Stealth strategy/RTT; whatever the current name for the genre is)?
It was certain that it will flop.

FPS or Action RPG like Mass Effect would sell very well.

Of course, that would require higher budget from MGM/Amazon/Publisher, but potential was there.

But let's assume that IP owners are blind and don't want our money, so budget stays the same.

In that case, even classic RTS like Age of Empires, Jagged Alliance clone (JA3 was released this year and it's very good) or cheap isometric RPG on Unity would sell better than Stealth strategy. Because it's a complete niche.

This game will flop and will be abandoned and forgotten next year. Wasted potential. A shame that your passion was wasted. Of course, I still wish you luck and thanks for your hard work on the game.

However SteamDB numbers for Timekeepers are terrible.
One day before release and only 15k followers...
Will this game even reach 1000 players 24h peak?

15,553 followers
#224 in wishlists
#1677 in top sellers

https://steamdb.info/app/1523650/charts/



You do realise that the Mimimi-games Strategy series that started wit the fantastic "Shadow Tactics: Blades of the Shogun" in 2016 uses the very same kind of rts elements? They also released Desperados III in 2020 and Shadow Gambit: The Curesed Crew in 2023. Al three games sold very successfully...what I`m saying is that this niche genere is not so niche anymore. Timekeepers might be more succesful as you think.
Implied Facepalm Deadmeat 23 ENE 2024 a las 6:07 a. m. 
Unironically this is worse than even i expected. The season model, the commandos style gameplay, the optimisation, the dialogue.
No stargate soundtrack, though a half decent attempt at a facsimile.


The only good part are the sound effects for the staff weapons are cool.
Robrecht 23 ENE 2024 a las 6:36 a. m. 
Publicado originalmente por Michael Steiner:
You do realise that the Mimimi-games Strategy series that started wit the fantastic "Shadow Tactics: Blades of the Shogun" in 2016 uses the very same kind of rts elements? They also released Desperados III in 2020 and Shadow Gambit: The Curesed Crew in 2023. Al three games sold very successfully...

Yeah, but:

They're not the ones making Timekeepers.

Even if they were, the core appeal of Stargate as an IP revolves around using the Stargate to explore unknown worlds. Timekeepers uses the premise of the Stargate only to drop you on a world and then leaves you stuck there, essentially taking the Stargate away.

There's a reason why Stargate Atlantis was fairly successful (if not as succesful as SG1), while both Stargate Universe and Stargate Infinity failed. All three had its main cast get cut off from Stargate Command and unable to return home (for different reasons).
But Atlantis kept the formula of having a base (in the form of Atlantis, rather than SGC) from which the main characters explore using the Stargate. If you removed all references to Stargate canon from Stargate Atlantis and released it like that, people would call it a Stargate SG1 rip-off, because it's got Stargate baked into its DNA.

Stargate Universe, meanwhile, stranded its main characters on a ship they had no control over and revolved around how they were stuck on the ship (and lots and lots of interpersonal drama), rather than able to explore a whole new galaxy. The role of the ship's onboard Stargate in the story past the first episode could have been replaced with a shuttle and it would have made no difference. In fact, if you do replace the Stargate with a shuttle and remove the references to Stargate canon, it would still be the exact same show and no one would associate it with Stargate. They would, with good reason, call it a Star Trek: Voyager rip-off

Stargate Infinity, on the other hand, has its main characters on the run. They use the Stargate at the start and end of every episode to travel to a new world, but they're not exploring. If you replace the Stargate with a starship and scrub it of its references to Stargate canon, it would still be exactly the same show and it wouldn't feel remotely like Stargate (just as, indeed, the actual show we got didn't).

And the thing is: If you can remove all references to a setting and end up with the exact same work (be it a show or a game or a book or what have you) and not have it feel like it's at least inspired by the setting in question, you have not made a work in that setting, you've just reskinned an unrelated work to look like that setting.

That's why so many tie-in games, even the ones where the game itself is arguable good, end up feeling worse than they would have if they'd just been their own thing.

Timekeepers might be a good game. Considering it's Slitherine that's not a completely unreasonable assumption (though I would point out that the most successful games in Slitherine's catalogue of published games are ones they only published and another studio actually developed). But, at least at this point, it doesn't look like it's going to be a Stargate game.
BLAXX 23 ENE 2024 a las 10:08 a. m. 
Publicado originalmente por Sebsch天皇:
Publicado originalmente por Lord Dazed & Insane:
It's a shame how the IP is being treated. This game looks terrible
And it actually plays terrible. Its just boring. Sorry for the hate, but its true. Also the "lore" feels poorly written. Crashing in the middle of nowehre in antarctica with your fighterjet and ofc a friend appears out of the middle of nowhere and jaffas are everywhere???? who thinks this makes me engaged in anything?

Thats the worst thing, you first have to have a good gameplay, if not then it doesnt matter what IP you have. Its soo clunky. It really feels like aplha early access.
SHOTof-Liber-TEA! 23 ENE 2024 a las 10:37 a. m. 
Publicado originalmente por Powellinho.72:
Publicado originalmente por Sebsch天皇:
As i said. I love Stargate Even SGU. I rly want a game using this kind of franchise to succeed but i have my doubts. Reading some of the discussions i think this game will suck a lot. Already watching the previous gameplays was a pain. Seemed very boring and not at all providing the typical Stargate flair. I hope i am wrong but ♥♥♥♥. Why dont make an action first person RPG with the Stargate lore? Its so obvious. Would be a better Starfield.

Probably because it would cost more money. This type of game cheaper to make, and the price reflects it at 24.99 GBP. Might be one of those, low risk lets try this and see how it goes before they decide to make a riskier more ambitious game.


I think a riskier game would be more successful... Everything I've ever read about any possible game in the Stargate franchise always longs for a FPS or RPG... I'm sure the developer had red tape and limits... EVEN IF THEY MADE AN FPS/RPG WITH 2013 TECHNOLOGY I'd buy it no questions asked.. I played the demo for the game and I couldn't bring myself to buy this... Not because it was bad, but because it's not the style game that such an iconic franchise really truly deserves... Plus it's not my style.
SHOTof-Liber-TEA! 23 ENE 2024 a las 10:40 a. m. 
Publicado originalmente por Edmon:
Publicado originalmente por Remnar:
Better not criticize their game; they may lock the topic! 🙄

Your welcome to critize the game. The topic I closed was about how the game was not Stargate Alliance or an FPS like Stargate Alliance, a game that was cancelled in 2005 and which, I think any reasonable person would agree, has nothing to do with this game other than both games holding the Stargate Licence.

Please keep posts on topic, we don't mind discussion about similar games either - I've not closed discussion about Commandos or Mutant Year Zero...

It is deeply unfair to blame us for the cancellation of the 2005 Stargate FPS, and it really is extremely off-topic for this forum.


I do have a question for you though... Will sales numbers determine a different line of games? Like an FPS... I'll support the IP for different variety of games... I'll even go for an RTS... Please respond to this... The success of the IP is important to me.. it seems like EVERYTHING else is rebooted except this one...
thorin106 23 ENE 2024 a las 11:36 a. m. 
I played the demo and it is okay for me and I may wait for a sale to get it cheaper, but the way I see it some will like it and some will not and I do feed off how another player may like it or do not like it. I also will not cry or heckle the developer and just give them feedback on how the game fared and just move on as crying about it is while it is feedback but for me it is a waste of time. The only thing I can say about it, it is not AAA and there are some AAA games that are terrible.
Articulate Llama 23 ENE 2024 a las 11:41 a. m. 
Extraction shooter would be better than this, though I always hoped for an evil genius style Stargate game.

People that have made games for this IP never understand this IP.
Lufian 23 ENE 2024 a las 11:43 a. m. 
Jeez, came to the discussions to find some sensible criticism, but instead found a bunch of whiney babies.
Trinity Embers 23 ENE 2024 a las 7:40 p. m. 
Publicado originalmente por Lufian:
Jeez, came to the discussions to find some sensible criticism, but instead found a bunch of whiney babies.
point n case
Trinity Embers 23 ENE 2024 a las 7:43 p. m. 
Publicado originalmente por thorin106:
I played the demo and it is okay for me and I may wait for a sale to get it cheaper, but the way I see it some will like it and some will not and I do feed off how another player may like it or do not like it. I also will not cry or heckle the developer and just give them feedback on how the game fared and just move on as crying about it is while it is feedback but for me it is a waste of time. The only thing I can say about it, it is not AAA and there are some AAA games that are terrible.
Kinda the whole point i been making all along this thread is filled with toxic trolls who have offer no reasonable or constructive feedback, openly attacked the developers and anyone who might like the game myself included and frankly ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ about how the game isn't what they personally wanted then went on to berate the devs further for how its not an fps or open world or mmo, totally unfair comparison given these devs make this genre of game, it was never hidden when the initial announcement was made so why people come here feeling shocked is beyond me. I have personally had fun so far im loving it and i happen to be apparently one of the rare people who love this game .... To all the haters move on already ur ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ was old in the first place....
Robrecht 23 ENE 2024 a las 7:58 p. m. 
Publicado originalmente por DannieGemz:
To all the haters move on already ur ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ was old in the first place....

Dude, the grand majority of people who've posted in this thread have made one, maybe two, posts about how they agree with the OP about not having high hopes for the game, some of them explaining why, and then moved on.

You're the only one who keeps coming back here to yell and swear at people for having a different opinion.
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