Balancing

[Kandor]

Heyho!

If I harvested 272 weedplants and got 2 big baskets full of weed.
That's 20 Big packs (19,9 because something went wrong with the last 1%), which can be sold for 370 = 7400 or, if you wanna put the effort in 10k. And if you are insane, you can do 200 * 65 = 13k, but that's just not gonna cut it.

In terms of potatoes. 41 plants got me 2 baskets or 10 big packs, worth 2k total.
Potatoes grow a little bit faster and have higher odds for seeds, I think. So if you add that up to 272 plants, you get 66 packs worth 13200.
Yes, you need to constanly call your mum to get the frying basket, which takes time, but it is offset, by the fact, that the drive to the snack chef takes probably less than half the time it would take to get to the barn.

Yes, Potatoes take up more space, but for twice the money, might as well go for potatoes.
Another issue I have with this, is the packager in the bunker. Why do I need to hide it down there? Might as well put it in the ched, because the time it takes to carry it up the stairs, is roughly the same as constanly clicking the Cutter.
In terms of logic/story, I don't need the basket to package the fries, so let me start before aquiring it?

So:
- I think the value of potatoes/fries is too high compared to weed.
- The compacter should go above ground and not be sold in the barn. Maybe have some farmer sell it to me.
- The compactor for potatoes should come with straps, so I can put 5 packs together, or I should be able to get some sort of crate, although it can be funny, to crash a truck full of bags.

So what do you think about this?

Also can we get a tanker for all the maple syrup or be able to build a harbor, so they can be picked up by sea? ^^

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The bunker:

From my experience, you need 600 watts on 1,5 m², to get 300/400 grams.
In bloom plants need 12 hours of light = 12h * 30 days * 600 watts * 20cent (Germany in 2009) / kwh = 43,2 € per month
Let's say the growing area of the bunker has 150 m², so the price for electricity would be higher. The latest ingame bill was like 400 bucks for 2 weeks, I believe.

The issue with the bunker is, that if you grow outside, the weed would grow in seasons, from march to september and then yield very big plants with high yield. Whereas under indoor conditions, it probably takes around 120 days to grow from seeds. For the growing period of let's say 30 days, the light should be in a blue tone, whereas the blooming period would need red/orange. You don't really see that on photos, because the people turn on different lights, but from my expirience, the colour inside the bunker is wrong and there should be a ton more lamps at the ceiling.

I do realise, that the game is set in spring of 2005 and it is probably not reasonable to introduce seasons, but it should be quicker to grow in the bunker, no matter if there is fertilizer or not. I think the plants should become sick, if if you don't fertilize them or change the soil. Also, being able to buy fertilizer from the plant store and then figure out how much you have to put in, not to burn the plants, would be a fun minigame.
Another thing is, that raining fertilizer on plants is not a good idea, because it will get stuck in the buds and you gonna starve the plants in their last weeks of growth anyway, because the taste is different.
I think you should add a hydroponics system, which basically waters the roots. And let me buy a whole system for the bunker. Plant pots are fun, but also really annoying and time consuming.

For outdoor growing, maybe seasons in weather would be okay. You can still set the game in spring, but have weather for acouple of days, so not changing it too quickly. So in a dryspell, plants grow quicker, but need constant watering, while in a rainy week, no watering but lower growth rates.

Since the bunker is late game, you could ramp up production for it, but make it, so that plants can die, if you don't care for them. Let's say you got a hydroponics system and run out of water, they die. Have the wrong fertilizer= plants grow slower and die, but do it right and you get a lot more weed. So high risk, high reward.

My 2 cents for now.

[jebova2301]

I agree on the value of fries being nuts. I can make a bag of fries and sell them for 200 bucks, or I can use the same amount of fries and my 5 things of poutine. I can buy 5 things of poutine for 25 bucks. Based on that, you are basically a fool for making your own poutine rather than just buying it. Sure, you miss out on the convenience of making it at home and can only buy 4 per day, but that difference in price is HUGE.

And I also think the fry packager needs to be in a better location. There is no reason for it to be in the bunker, as that takes forever to move from down there to upstairs.