I don't want to update the Nvidia graphics drivers.

[mattyan]

It requires Geforce driver version 536.40 or higher, which is known to physically destroy graphics boards. I have heard that this has not been remedied, even with the latest drivers.
Is there any way to play this game without updating the drivers?

[Reign In Blood]

same... F this, I'm out.

[󠀡󠀡]

Muahhqhah

[Z]

You can rename GPU driver sys file to bypass driver version check. But i doubt you will be able to play the game with new EA anti cheat,even more it is risky to try. No one knows how EA anti cheat works.
USE AT YOUR OWN RISK :
1. Go to c,windows, system32.
2. Search for nvapi64.dll
3. Rename it to nvapi64_.dll
4. You might need to rename all of them if there is more than one. But start only with one and test.
Please note that after this change you nvidia controll panel,gfexperience and shadowplay might not work unless you rename files back and reboot pc.
I am also recommend using last driver version because i tested 441.41 vs latest and the latest has 15% more fpa and less input lag on rtx series gpus.

[GunSlingerAUS]

Known to physically destroy GPUs? Jesus H Christ, you people are insane.

[♥ Beepy ♥]

Originally posted by mattyan:

It requires Geforce driver version 536.40 or higher, which is known to physically destroy graphics boards. I have heard that this has not been remedied, even with the latest drivers.
Is there any way to play this game without updating the drivers?

I've been running 537.34 with absolutely *zero* issues.

[Die Zahl]

Originally posted by <3 Beepy <3:

Originally posted by mattyan:

It requires Geforce driver version 536.40 or higher, which is known to physically destroy graphics boards. I have heard that this has not been remedied, even with the latest drivers.
Is there any way to play this game without updating the drivers?

I've been running 537.34 with absolutely *zero* issues.

i'm on 537.13 and the game is running fine for me

[Z]

Originally posted by GunSlingerAUS:

Known to physically destroy GPUs? Jesus H Christ, you people are insane.

I guess he ment permanent performance loss.
At overclock.net you can find a thread how amd agesa bios updates could flash certain set of instructions straight to your cpu increasing security but decreasing performance for 1-3%.
No wonder if nvidia doing the same with driver updates because it is proven to be real.
People even proved that newr nvidia drivers perform worse on GTX gpus.

[karm]

Originally posted by mattyan:

It requires Geforce driver version 536.40 or higher, which is known to physically destroy graphics boards. I have heard that this has not been remedied, even with the latest drivers.
Is there any way to play this game without updating the drivers?

proof or it didnt happen

[ADLERELiCT]

What? Drivers cannot physically damage GPUs. Overcurrent, crappy firmware and bad overclocking can lead to the damaging of your card.

Update your drivers and carry on with your day.

[mattyan]

Originally posted by Z:

You can rename GPU driver sys file to bypass driver version check. But i doubt you will be able to play the game with new EA anti cheat,even more it is risky to try. No one knows how EA anti cheat works.
USE AT YOUR OWN RISK :
1. Go to c,windows, system32.
2. Search for nvapi64.dll
3. Rename it to nvapi64_.dll
4. You might need to rename all of them if there is more than one. But start only with one and test.
Please note that after this change you nvidia controll panel,gfexperience and shadowplay might not work unless you rename files back and reboot pc.
I am also recommend using last driver version because i tested 441.41 vs latest and the latest has 15% more fpa and less input lag on rtx series gpus.

Thanks for the info. I'll wait and see and decide if I want to give it a try.

[mattyan]

Originally posted by Z:

Originally posted by GunSlingerAUS:

Known to physically destroy GPUs? Jesus H Christ, you people are insane.

I guess he ment permanent performance loss.
At overclock.net you can find a thread how amd agesa bios updates could flash certain set of instructions straight to your cpu increasing security but decreasing performance for 1-3%.
No wonder if nvidia doing the same with driver updates because it is proven to be real.
People even proved that newr nvidia drivers perform worse on GTX gpus.

No, I didn't.

Originally posted by GunSlingerAUS:

Known to physically destroy GPUs? Jesus H Christ, you people are insane.

Originally posted by karm:

Originally posted by mattyan:

It requires Geforce driver version 536.40 or higher, which is known to physically destroy graphics boards. I have heard that this has not been remedied, even with the latest drivers.
Is there any way to play this game without updating the drivers?

proof or it didnt happen

This issue has been covered by several large reliable websites, at least in the Japanese-speaking world.
https://www.gamespark.jp/article/2023/07/21/132286.html
https://www.nichepcgamer.com/archives/geforce-driver-issue-537-42.html

These websites suggest that blackouts occur in versions 536.40 and later.
The second website says that once this problem occurs, it may not be fixed by rolling back the driver, so it is suspected that the driver is causing hardware damage.

I have not read the content, but according to another page on the second website, the problem report is made in the Geforce thread. (This report is in English)
https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/forums/game-ready-drivers/13/521773/geforce-grd-53640-feedback-thread-released-62923/

A detailed personal blog also addresses this information. His graphics board was actually physically destroyed by parts being scorched.
https://moshi-nara.com/21595/
According to him, the Diablo 4 blackout phenomenon reported on Twitter and Reddit actually turned out to be caused by a driver, not a game error, and this is what led to the discovery of this bug. You might want to translate the bullet points in the comments section at the bottom.

All of this information was released around mid-July to early August, and none of it has been followed up. Within Japan, this information is known among people with some Internet literacy. If this is not a malicious hoax, the information should be available in the English-speaking world.

Originally posted by Herr4dler:

What? Drivers cannot physically damage GPUs. Overcurrent, crappy firmware and bad overclocking can lead to the damaging of your card.

Update your drivers and carry on with your day.

Yeah, an overclock might actually happen.It is noted in the comments that there are no images of evidence, but according to him on the third website, these drivers have been shown to force overclocking.

[OzyMan👽]

Originally posted by mattyan:

Originally posted by Z:

You can rename GPU driver sys file to bypass driver version check. But i doubt you will be able to play the game with new EA anti cheat,even more it is risky to try. No one knows how EA anti cheat works.
USE AT YOUR OWN RISK :
1. Go to c,windows, system32.
2. Search for nvapi64.dll
3. Rename it to nvapi64_.dll
4. You might need to rename all of them if there is more than one. But start only with one and test.
Please note that after this change you nvidia controll panel,gfexperience and shadowplay might not work unless you rename files back and reboot pc.
I am also recommend using last driver version because i tested 441.41 vs latest and the latest has 15% more fpa and less input lag on rtx series gpus.

Thanks for the info. I'll wait and see and decide if I want to give it a try.

it works BUT hwinfo shows incorrect GPU Memory Clock values,my default gpu memory clock is 1500 now it shows 3000 that's weird set it to default now nvapi64.dll

[Kälävätys]

Originally posted by mattyan:

A detailed personal blog also addresses this information. His graphics board was actually physically destroyed by parts being scorched.
https://moshi-nara.com/21595/
According to him, the Diablo 4 blackout phenomenon reported on Twitter and Reddit actually turned out to be caused by a driver, not a game error, and this is what led to the discovery of this bug. You might want to translate the bullet points in the comments section at the bottom.

Never trust a blog. All those "covid death vaccines" and "flat earth" conspiracy theories started from some lunatic's blog posts. Read blogs for your own entertainment but understand that anybody could write literally anything and claim it's factual information when in reality it is not.

[Z]

Originally posted by OzyMan👽:

Originally posted by mattyan:

Thanks for the info. I'll wait and see and decide if I want to give it a try.

it works BUT hwinfo shows incorrect GPU Memory Clock values,my default gpu memory clock is 1500 now it shows 3000 that's weird set it to default now nvapi64.dll

Hwinfo actually takes info about gpu from driver files,since this is driver file - your monitoring could work incorrectly.

[OzyMan👽]

Originally posted by Z:

Originally posted by OzyMan👽:

it works BUT hwinfo shows incorrect GPU Memory Clock values,my default gpu memory clock is 1500 now it shows 3000 that's weird set it to default now nvapi64.dll

Hwinfo actually takes info about gpu from driver files,since this is driver file - your monitoring could work incorrectly.

yeah could be but i also checked with gpu-z too which shows normal i guess hwinfo could havd different method of monitoring