Battlefield 2042 and SBMM (SKILL BASED MATCHMAKING)

[zyleeehFPS]

My initial topic about SBMM have been deleted for whatever reason by a salty moderator or developer.
All i did was say that this game is going to have SBMM after seeing the SBMM matchmaking pattern that EA is going to use for this game.
This game if the pattern is implemented will also not have any server browser like older Battlefield, because SBMM or QBMM doesn t work like that .
This battlefield will be completely different than other Battlefields and will wan t to gather a larger playerbase, now how will they do that, in EA mind that means adding SBMM, not adding actual anti-cheat, not doing team balacing properly.
The copy-paste COD model of Microtransactions in this game, even the specialists
If you can t play against better players and you ask for SBMM than don t buy any Battlefield or competitive FPS game, because there will always be someone better at the game than you.
This game will have 128 players fighting on HUGE maps.
THERE WILL BE NO NEED FOR SBMM FOR A GAME THAT LARGE, BUT APPARENTLY EA GOT A MIND OF IT S OWN AND SEE ONLY PROFIT
PROPER BALANCING GOES A LONG WAY, PROPER ANTI-CHEAT GOES A LONG WAY, NOT SBMM .

[Dark Sun Gwyndolin]

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gimme a link talking about that, how you do you know that this SBMM isn't implemented on the server's plugins of auto-balancing? and BF not having dedicated servers? I doubt that

Not sure if i can leave links here, but here is from where i know
https://www.reddit.com/r/GamingLeaksAndRumours/comments/o0j894/unsurprsingly_there_will_most_likely_be_sbmm_in/
Also done some research on my own and it almost confirmed it will have some sort of SBMM system.

That link states that SBMM is implemented on a server level (so decide what team to put you on), not a queue level. It's not the same thing as CoD's aggressive "1 pro carrying 5 dunces" lobby balancing.

[Shork]

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gimme a link talking about that, how you do you know that this SBMM isn't implemented on the server's plugins of auto-balancing? and BF not having dedicated servers? I doubt that

Not sure if i can leave links here, but here is from where i know
https://www.reddit.com/r/GamingLeaksAndRumours/comments/o0j894/unsurprsingly_there_will_most_likely_be_sbmm_in/
Also done some research on my own and it almost confirmed it will have some sort of SBMM system.

Whatever research you've done was pretty lazy.
Quite literally the top post in the thread you linked disproves your statement.

He says that "The majority of the "SBMM" happens when you've found the server, it doesn't kick in beforehand" so it's more like team balancing than SBMM (as SBMM implies matchmaking)

That is not SBMM. That's team balancing, which is nothing new in this series.

[Karl Marx (ص)]

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gimme a link talking about that, how you do you know that this SBMM isn't implemented on the server's plugins of auto-balancing? and BF not having dedicated servers? I doubt that

Not sure if i can leave links here, but here is from where i know
https://www.reddit.com/r/GamingLeaksAndRumours/comments/o0j894/unsurprsingly_there_will_most_likely_be_sbmm_in/
Also done some research on my own and it almost confirmed it will have some sort of SBMM system.

imagine basing your whole argument on a rumor on fkin reddit that is originally came from a "leaker" that previously had his account suspended because of false destructive leaks, yeah good job buddy.

and even if there is a SBMM you can't criticize it unless you see how it works right? and where can i see the BS topic about not having dedicated community servers?

[zyleeehFPS]

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Not sure if i can leave links here, but here is from where i know
https://www.reddit.com/r/GamingLeaksAndRumours/comments/o0j894/unsurprsingly_there_will_most_likely_be_sbmm_in/
Also done some research on my own and it almost confirmed it will have some sort of SBMM system.

imagine basing your whole argument on a rumor on fkin reddit that is originally came from a "leaker" that previously had his account suspended because of false destructive leaks, yeah good job buddy.

and even if there is a SBMM you can't criticize it unless you see how it works right? and where can i see the BS topic about not having dedicated community servers?

SBMM
It's not only that, EA patented QBMM (Quality Based Match Making)
The insider Tom Henderson have not been wrong on BF2042 leaks , everything he showed was accurate , including pictures from the game and some moments from the trailer.

[[-iD-]]

why would a server based game have skill matching?

[Shork]

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why would a server based game have skill matching?

For the same reason the Earth should be flat.

[[-iD-]]

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why would a server based game have skill matching?

For the same reason the Earth should be flat.

because some believe it to be true?

[Shork]

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For the same reason the Earth should be flat.

because some believe it to be true?

[Terminator01]

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If the previous topic looked like this one, it's obvious why it got closed.


Those things aren't necessarily connected. We still have no idea how the gameplay looks like in detail.

The gameplay reveal trailer is out already, they also confirmed 128 players for PC and the maps are very big.

That scenes are 100% scripted to make the trailer look cool. Nothing else. No way in this life you will see actual customers play like this.

I already call it that a large portion of people will sit on a rooftop and try to snipe people from like 2km away.

[Shork]

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That scenes are 100% scripted to make the trailer look cool. Nothing else. No way in this life you will see actual customers play like this.

I already call it that a large portion of people will sit on a rooftop and try to snipe people from like 2km away.

To be fair, it does say "gameplay trailer" not "lets play" or something of that sort.
It's supposed to show some of the mechanics as they would be seen in the game. Realistic matches often don't make for great showcases anyway. Lots of running, gunning, dying, more running...

[esturias]

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why would a server based game have skill matching?

I assume you mean dedicated servers/serverbrowser. Those things aren't mutually exclusive. You'll most definitely still have a quick-join option or similar, too.

[Karl Marx (ص)]

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The gameplay reveal trailer is out already, they also confirmed 128 players for PC and the maps are very big.

That scenes are 100% scripted to make the trailer look cool. Nothing else. No way in this life you will see actual customers play like this.

I already call it that a large portion of people will sit on a rooftop and try to snipe people from like 2km away.

No 5hit, at least they didn't use controller's smooth camera moving technique most of the trailers use, and it only comes natural for players to exploit and abuse mechanics.

[Edifier]

In some ways it could be good but it might affect normal players.

Lets say they go by KD ratio. Cheaters will eventually play with other cheaters.
That would hamper their progress to harass normal players.

But there could be normal people who might have just used one powerful vehicle because there will always be that one or two vehicle that are stronger than any other and getting kills with it will be easy.
So that guy might be put up against cheaters. All though it'll only be for a certain amount of time before his KD ratio is leveled out again.


If we go by Player Rank you will most likely have a more fair round because a lot of times in BF3 and BF4 the team with the most Max rank players often won.
They might also have unlocked more stuff that could help them in the battle.

When a lot of people are at max rank they'll play by themselves with other people who most likely know what to do.
Hell you might get people who play for the objective more often than not. Maybe there is more team work.

[Shork]

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No 5hit, at least they didn't use controller's smooth camera moving technique most of the trailers use, and it only comes natural for players to exploit and abuse mechanics.

You don't need a controller for that.
Mouse smoothing is an option, too.

[[-iD-]]

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why would a server based game have skill matching?

I assume you mean dedicated servers/serverbrowser. Those things aren't mutually exclusive. You'll most definitely still have a quick-join option or similar, too.

yeah but it would not ever be accurate to be skill matching in a game where everyone can join whatever server they wish anyway.