Killed Percival. Killled Ruiner. Encounter Dragon dude again...

[chosenxeno]

No Vestige lol.

WTF is this game and why can't I stop?

I have seeds but I don't want to run out in Late game so I'm trying to have at least 2 at all times. Why were they so tight with Vestiges? I did use a seed on the Ruiner spot but damn!

[Gameo]

Youre gonna love that NG+ has 0 vestiges

[chosenxeno]

Originally posted by Gameo:

Youre gonna love that NG+ has 0 vestiges

I hear but I don't typically do NGs in soulslike. I'm usually good on stress by the time I'm done. That's pretty insane though.

[Gameo]

Pretty stupid I say. Lazy, artificial way to increase difficulty just for the sake of doing something different

[Deathwing1306]

Is there really no vestige in the whole Fitzroy's Gorge or whatever is it called area?

I also beat both of the bosses there, the knight unlocked a shortcut to one of the first vestiges on the platforms and Ruiner just unlocked the fire location which is little bit further, but I also didn't find any vestiges along the way and I thought I just missed it lol

[chosenxeno]

Originally posted by Deathwing1306:

Is there really no vestige in the whole Fitzroy's Gorge or whatever is it called area?

I also beat both of the bosses there, the knight unlocked a shortcut to one of the first vestiges on the platforms and Ruiner just unlocked the fire location which is little bit further, but I also didn't find any vestiges along the way and I thought I just missed it lol

I saw an NPC of some sort before I logged. There might be. The logical thing would have been just to have one on the bridge after Ruiner. It's ridiculous that you encounter 2 named and don't get a vestige.

P.S That shortcut(if you can even call it that. Was a nice surprise. Didn't expect to end up "there".

[Celto]

Originally posted by Gameo:

Pretty stupid I say. Lazy, artificial way to increase difficulty just for the sake of doing something different

Agreed, theres so much bad artificial difficulty and bad design choices like this. Sad considering this game has so much potential

[Inquisitor Zalinto]

Originally posted by chosenxeno:

No Vestige lol.

WTF is this game and why can't I stop?

I have seeds but I don't want to run out in Late game so I'm trying to have at least 2 at all times. Why were they so tight with Vestiges? I did use a seed on the Ruiner spot but damn!

not sure about NG+ but in normal game you can buy them i think they are 2,500 each. The seeds that is. I've yet to run out and I use them all the time. The cap is 5 though (for how many you can hold at once) so if you're at 5 might as well use one for sure.

[Deathwing1306]

Originally posted by chosenxeno:

Originally posted by Deathwing1306:

Is there really no vestige in the whole Fitzroy's Gorge or whatever is it called area?

I also beat both of the bosses there, the knight unlocked a shortcut to one of the first vestiges on the platforms and Ruiner just unlocked the fire location which is little bit further, but I also didn't find any vestiges along the way and I thought I just missed it lol

I saw an NPC of some sort before I logged. There might be. The logical thing would have been just to have one on the bridge after Ruiner. It's ridiculous that you encounter 2 named and don't get a vestige.

P.S That shortcut(if you can even call it that. Was a nice surprise. Didn't expect to end up "there".

I also was pretty surprised from where I came out lol

[bulldog0890]

dragon dude doesn't respawn if he kills you, and you could have used the vestige seed from ruiner on the bridge, so it no big deal. though i still think the seed system is dumb

[Rena Ichigawa]

Originally posted by Deathwing1306:

Is there really no vestige in the whole Fitzroy's Gorge or whatever is it called area?

I also beat both of the bosses there, the knight unlocked a shortcut to one of the first vestiges on the platforms and Ruiner just unlocked the fire location which is little bit further, but I also didn't find any vestiges along the way and I thought I just missed it lol

After the lightreaper once youre in the burning town. There is a vestige in the alehouse that you have to pass through to continue. Its pretty hard to miss seeing that its a area you have to go through. Its halfway through the burning town before you run into a non-boss version of the ruiner.

[Deathwing1306]

Originally posted by Rena Ichigawa:

Originally posted by Deathwing1306:

Is there really no vestige in the whole Fitzroy's Gorge or whatever is it called area?

I also beat both of the bosses there, the knight unlocked a shortcut to one of the first vestiges on the platforms and Ruiner just unlocked the fire location which is little bit further, but I also didn't find any vestiges along the way and I thought I just missed it lol

After the lightreaper once youre in the burning town. There is a vestige in the alehouse that you have to pass through to continue. Its pretty hard to miss seeing that its a area you have to go through. Its halfway through the burning town before you run into a non-boss version of the ruiner.

But there are no vestiges in the cave in the Fitzroy's Gorge... before the Ruiner boss.

[chosenxeno]

Originally posted by bulldog0890:

dragon dude doesn't respawn if he kills you, and you could have used the vestige seed from ruiner on the bridge, so it no big deal. though i still think the seed system is dumb

Which I did. I said this lol.

[EJ22T]

There actually is a flower spot in the cave. After crossing the bridge in umb, it'll be on your right over a little rock pile/lip you can only cross in umb/using your lantern. You'll find a npc on the other side and down the ladder is a flower patch. Would have been useful to know the first time 5 times I went through the whole cave getting to the boss.

[SeanXD]

Playing through all of NG+, it wasn't that bad w/o Vestiges. Just spam Seeds if you need them, then when you use you last one (and don't get any more in the Umbral) just warp to the HUB and buy 5 more from Molhu for 6k total. The real annoying part is backtracking through areas depending on the ending you are going for. More annoying than difficult depending on if you are in a hurry or not.