Lords of the Fallen

Lords of the Fallen

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Drew Oct 15, 2023 @ 10:42am
Invasions in this game are REALLY BAD
Seriously, if you're invaded while killing a bunch of mobs you're 100% ♥♥♥♥♥♥, because the mobs only go after you. If you die and go to the umbral world, it gets worse because you get swarmed by trash mobs and not only you have to deal with a invader trying to kill you, you also have to try to deal with the trash mobs that only attack you.
How the ♥♥♥♥ are you supposed to do PVP if you can't even fight properly?
So... if you want to do pvp, dont wait to get invaded, invade instead because you have A LOT easier this way.

This system is straight up bad.

TL;DR: get invaded>mobs only attack you>deal with mobs+invader>die.
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Grimzy Oct 15, 2023 @ 10:46am 
Originally posted by Drew ツ:
Seriously, if you're invaded while killing a bunch of mobs you're 100% ♥♥♥♥♥♥, because the mobs only go after you. If you die and go to the umbral world, it gets worse because you get swarmed by trash mobs and not only you have to deal with a invader trying to kill you, you also have to try to deal with the trash mobs that only attack you.
How the ♥♥♥♥ are you supposed to do PVP if you can't even fight properly?
So... if you want to do pvp, dont wait to get invaded, invade instead because you have A LOT easier this way.

This system is straight up bad.

TL;DR: get invaded>mobs only attack you>deal with mobs+invader>die.

There exists a toggle to turn off online features. Feel free to use it if you do not like it.
That is simply why its called "invading". No one is gonna ask you if its conveniant for you to get invaded.
Phantom Limb Oct 15, 2023 @ 10:54am 
Originally posted by Drew ツ:
Seriously, if you're invaded while killing a bunch of mobs you're 100% ♥♥♥♥♥♥, because the mobs only go after you. If you die and go to the umbral world, it gets worse because you get swarmed by trash mobs and not only you have to deal with a invader trying to kill you, you also have to try to deal with the trash mobs that only attack you.
How the ♥♥♥♥ are you supposed to do PVP if you can't even fight properly?
So... if you want to do pvp, dont wait to get invaded, invade instead because you have A LOT easier this way.

This system is straight up bad.

TL;DR: get invaded>mobs only attack you>deal with mobs+invader>die.
But that's how invasions worked in DS games. Nothing has been changed really.
Unc Oct 15, 2023 @ 10:59am 
You probably on some "i played all the dark souls and it wasnt like this" lmaooo and sadly it always was. if you're new to the genre, then LEARN HOW TO PLAY. NO SOULS GAME IS FOR THE WEAK AND THATS HOW WE LIKE IT!
Maidiac Oct 15, 2023 @ 11:02am 
ive been invaded 4 times. Beat all but one of them because i was in the swamp and ONE enemy allerted all the others about me and a hurricane of flying bodies insued lol
SolusiRadikal Oct 15, 2023 @ 11:03am 
Bad netcode make everything delayed up to 1 second for the invader side and you still complaining...

Originally posted by Maidiac:
ive been invaded 4 times. Beat all but one of them because i was in the swamp and ONE enemy allerted all the others about me and a hurricane of flying bodies insued lol
I mean it's not that hard to beat someone who get forced to spam light attack because any other action will instantly pull them into a vacum and unable to do anything
Last edited by SolusiRadikal; Oct 15, 2023 @ 11:05am
Cathartic Oct 15, 2023 @ 11:12am 
Tip: don't pull mobs while being invaded stay somewhere safe, I'm sure they'll be a community password and designated PvP spot at some point if their even is one yet, so if you want fair PvP wait for that and turn off online for now, if the invader baits you into mobs then try to pick the mobs off one by one if possible, aggro them from ranged, e.g rocks, throwing weps etc and just be prepared for him to attack, try some parries etc.
Charok Oct 15, 2023 @ 11:21am 
No surprise they make multiplayer terrible like that. Co-op only makes Payday so much better than this mess.
Herr von Stein Oct 15, 2023 @ 11:30am 
Welcome to Soulslike games. Play offline if you cant handle it. Just an Opinion. I was in your position as well. No doubt its annyoing if you play with your friend. Thats how things are.
uraizen Oct 15, 2023 @ 11:38am 
This game has more enemies than a typical Souls game even if they are weak, so I understand how you feel. However, on my first invasion, another player was summoned less than a minute after without me requesting help. So there is something to help, but playing offline doesn't really change anything. You can't get revenge, use one of the NPCs, and... that's it?
Pliny The Welder Oct 21, 2023 @ 6:21am 
Originally posted by HoodieSmitty:
You probably on some "i played all the dark souls and it wasnt like this" lmaooo and sadly it always was. if you're new to the genre, then LEARN HOW TO PLAY. NO SOULS GAME IS FOR THE WEAK AND THATS HOW WE LIKE IT!

You aren't invaded in souls at any time except for DS2. In DeS you're only invaded while human. In DS1 you're only invaded while human, in DS3 you're only invaded while embered, in BB you're only invaded around bells, in ER you have to opt into invasions.

The pvp here is actually much better than souls games but it's annoying how frequent it is. I've had invasions literally back to back within five minutes. And in later levels it's almost constant. It's an annoying distraction.

I want the invasions but a longer timer is definitely needed. I don't want to be invaded literally every five minutes. A twenty minute timer would be perfect with an optional item to remove the timer for those that are looking to pvp.
Aetrion Oct 21, 2023 @ 7:50am 
Invasions are absolutely BS in this game. Every time I get invaded it's some cheeser who abuses the most broken stuff in the game, like the echos being able to hit you through walls etc, or has such insane resistances that you can't even damage them.

That's on top of the game throwing you invasions at ridiculous times. In Dark Souls you get invaded shortly after you leave a bonfire or when you enter a new zone where an invader is active. That usually leaves you with an opportunity to get into a fair fight. In this game you get invaded at the end of a run when you're out of mana, out of heals, and a minute from having a red reaper after you.

I've just turned the online component of the game off. It isn't enjoyable because of how stupid and cheesy invasions are in this game. It's just not the same as Dark Souls where an invasion is a hard fight. Here you just get invaded by some cheating loser with no chance to win.
DropDeadFred Nov 2, 2023 @ 10:39am 
I think the game is great. That being said there definitely some bugs to work out a lot of the invaders are over leveling their characters so that you do little to no damage to them it is exactly like every souls game I ever played and I love it we just have to figure new and improve ways to overcome.
LightWolf Dec 21, 2023 @ 7:33am 
yeah i totally agree. toally similar to DS BUT and i think, that is the very worst part:
If you get Invaded, the Umbral timer is going up an i think in an Invasion it could be Paused OR when its full, and the Assasin Ghost is coming for you, it should attack the Invader also, or there have to spawn two of them or something else.

I had an Invader who was totally cheesy and always moved back and played on time, because he knew, that i will kill him with 3 hits.

It ended in an endless car-and-mouse game until the assassin got me. And i think thats a bad invasion design. Invaders can literally hide and wait
lal, first time?
DividedSage2 Apr 30, 2024 @ 8:28pm 
Originally posted by HoodieSmitty:
You probably on some "i played all the dark souls and it wasnt like this" lmaooo and sadly it always was. if you're new to the genre, then LEARN HOW TO PLAY. NO SOULS GAME IS FOR THE WEAK AND THATS HOW WE LIKE IT!
No, that is not how "we" like it. You don't speak for everyone, only for the couch warriors. Souls game. Souls. Game. Game. As you live vicariously thru your DS characters remember that no matter how much you want it to be real it never will be. So instead of replying like a hard core tough guy to those who don't share your delusions of grandeur, remember that the people posting are real and DS is a game. Now go kick the crap out of Smough and Ornstein, and feel good about your day, tough guy.
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