Lords of the Fallen

Lords of the Fallen

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ЯeÐ ĄnimaŁ ШaЯ 13 OCT 2023 a las 13:19
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The first boss Pieta is already total ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.
Lets see how many Git guds I can get.

Extremely unfair timings, it feels like a gamble. The NPC dies WAY to fast. WTF is up with her entering the 2nd phase so early. Every time I think its going well she enters the 2nd phase with 70% HP and the NPC dies. Its not a fun fight at all.

Does she get extra scaled when you use the NPC? It feels like you are forced to summon.

Maybe its my class I picked the "advanced class" assassin. Her shooting thing 1 hit kills me, other then that every hit 80% of my HP and sometimes just insta dead. Feels ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ impossible I do not want to try some gamble ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ for 5 hours and hope the stupid NPC not dies for some reason, if he makes it to the 2nd phase she still has 50% hp left and just kills him right away. And again if I go fast in the 1st phase it seems its WORSE because she enter the 2nd phase early. Can you interrupt her going into 2nd phase?

Attacks are ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ annoying to read, stupid teleport spawns and the absolute worst when they shoot. The ground attack also ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ stupid, no warning where they land next, just stupid. I read I guide that I am supposed to use fire, already burned 3 of my fire things, does not feel like its doing much, other then bringing her to enter 2nd phase earlier then ever.

// Edit. I beat her, read the thread.
Última edición por ЯeÐ ĄnimaŁ ШaЯ; 14 OCT 2023 a las 7:28
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Harry.Taco 14 OCT 2023 a las 8:04 
Yep parry and dodge and heal up. Do a complete rest between dying lol.
cobber888 14 OCT 2023 a las 8:22 
its a great fight, probly the best in the game so far, its completely fair, to bad the rest of the game doesnt keep up the standard
Skorne 14 OCT 2023 a las 8:30 
I am struggling, the fight is pretty fair and I learnt all her attacks and telegraphs but I got too old and my reflexes aren't quite there anymore.

This is why despite die hard souls fans spouting git gud, all games should have a difficulty setting. When those git gud gamers hit 60 and get rekt by the first boss in dark souls 6 they will be singing a different tune.
Kurague 14 OCT 2023 a las 8:34 
Publicado originalmente por Skorne:
I am struggling, the fight is pretty fair and I learnt all her attacks and telegraphs but I got too old and my reflexes aren't quite there anymore.

This is why despite die hard souls fans spouting git gud, all games should have a difficulty setting. When those git gud gamers hit 60 and get rekt by the first boss in dark souls 6 they will be singing a different tune.

Hah, I can tell you're telling the truth cause you have a Chronicles of Riddick profile image.

Anyways, just follow the advice I've posted up there and you'll get it eventually. I don't know what build you're playing but if you're willing to put a few points in Pyro, there's a good Strength/Pyro blade in the area right before Pieta that is super quick and hits harder than it's stats imply.

PS: My methods don't imply any parrying.
Última edición por Kurague; 14 OCT 2023 a las 8:35
Bloodrider 14 OCT 2023 a las 8:37 
literally git gud, shes incredibly easy to learn her patterns and super easy to dodge them
Smaxx 14 OCT 2023 a las 8:50 
Have yet to beat her with the dual wield rogue (I take too much damage while dealing too little, if I ignore the weapon buffs), but created a crusader just to have a comparison and your starting class matters definitely. I didn't level the crusader at all and I've beaten her second attempt.

First phase with crusader:
Take your two-hander two-handed and try to hit her with a fully charged heavy attack. If you hit, you'll cancel her attack and "stagger" her for a moment. Wait about 1-2 seconds to regenerate some stamina, then follow up with the next heavy attack. If you get the timing right, you can stun-lock her until she starts the second phase.

Second phase was a bit more tricky for me, but here what worked in the end for me:
She flew to the other end of the room to summon the two other "angels", I ran past her (i.e. behind) and started to whack her. The adds attacked towards the center and she herself only fumbled around, waiting for the adds to finish, so I could just knocking her down, again heavy attack after heavy attack.

Edit:
While I wouldn't consider her unbeatable, it's a rather movement/wide swings intensive fight, including adds, something I didn't expect for the very first boss in this game (or a game like this in general). And I think that's what's throwing off most people. You'd typically a bulky, not too fast, heavy swings fight. Not a – if I may use an Elden Ring analogy – a buffed up Crucible Knight.
Última edición por Smaxx; 14 OCT 2023 a las 8:58
Kurague 14 OCT 2023 a las 8:54 
Publicado originalmente por Smaxx:
Have yet to beat her with the dual wield rogue (I take too much damage while dealing too little, if I ignore the weapon buffs), but created a crusader just to have a comparison and your starting class matters definitely. I didn't level the crusader at all and I've beaten her second attempt.

First phase with crusader:
Take your two-hander two-handed and try to hit her with a fully charged heavy attack. If you hit, you'll cancel her attack and "stagger" her for a moment. Wait about 1-2 seconds to regenerate some stamina, then follow up with the next heavy attack. If you get the timing right, you can stun-lock her until she starts the second phase.

Second phase was a bit more tricky for me, but here what worked in the end for me:
She flew to the other end of the room to summon the two other "angels", I ran past her (i.e. behind) and started to whack her. The adds attacked towards the center and she herself only fumbled around, waiting for the adds to finish, so I could just knocking her down, again heavy attack after heavy attack.

I can explain why this is the way it is, and you actually wouldn't quite expect why :D

All of Pieta's damage is holy damage.

All of the crusader's armour gives you a ♥♥♥♥ ton of Holy damage resistance.

It's not that you take too much dmg as any other class, it's just that you take much less damage as a crusader os cleric.

More advice if you guys don't get her still;
Equip the gear the ♥♥♥♥ mobs give you, the clerical robes. They lower every defense stat EXCEPT holy, which eahc piece has 60-200 of. This makes it where Pieta's damage is severely reduced, almost up to the point of the crusader/Priest.
Smaxx 14 OCT 2023 a las 9:00 
I figured out the holy damage and the default armor for the DW class has a holy focus, too, but I didn't compare the numbers to the crusader. 😉 I have yet to find/see clerical robes. All I found before the first boss was stuff with significant heat resistance.
ShootNik 14 OCT 2023 a las 9:01 
Publicado originalmente por CIG_Tuck:
I believe in you!
Just nerf her, please, she has a underwhelming mechanic.

2nd phase starts at 75%, broken stance and hit lead to a miserable amount of damage (7%?), 1 hit laser, 2 kill attacks, grab attacks, lightning swords that have strange hit zone and decent damage and etc.

Do you really think this is a great start to the game?

I've leveled up my health, stamina and agility to 20, wasted a lot of time and it helped just a bit.
Why don't I have a chance at least to improve my weapons, since enemies drop chunks?
The summon is really weak and doesn't help at all.

You just build a wall that majority of casual players won't be able to overcome without grinding, therfore ruining their experience and a game "flow". How do you think this will affect overall completion rate of the game and the steam score?

I've seen this kind of posts on reddit too, so please, take your time to fix this broken ♥♥♥♥♥.
Criza 14 OCT 2023 a las 9:04 
insane how people just don't want to play the game, i mean you pay 60$ to pass less time in the game? die to a boss isn't bad, i had a lot of fun learing how to parry her, will never understand why people don't want to give the challenge a chance
Kurague 14 OCT 2023 a las 9:07 
Publicado originalmente por Smaxx:
I figured out the holy damage and the default armor for the DW class has a holy focus, too, but I didn't compare the numbers to the crusader. 😉 I have yet to find/see clerical robes. All I found before the first boss was stuff with significant heat resistance.

The fire wizard thrash mobs throw some robes that give you holy resistance
P. 14 OCT 2023 a las 9:16 
Waifu 10/10
BigCheese 14 OCT 2023 a las 9:18 
Publicado originalmente por Criza:
https://imgur.com/RRAdIrS fun game

Nice.
vegetarianwolf 14 OCT 2023 a las 9:55 
Publicado originalmente por Kyutaru:
I am Malenia, Blade of Miquella, and I have never known defeat. ~Pieta
A poor substitute -Malenia, Blade of Miquella
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