MAKE COOP LOOT AVAILABLE FOR BOTH PLAYERS OR NO BUY

[Howl]

Why even have full beginning to end coop if my friend cant get any of the good loot? Wtaf? Why would you ever play with anyone then?

[Ypho]

Originally posted by Vermilion Knight:

Originally posted by Ypho:

Yes the dropped (♥♥♥♥) loot is shared. But trying to play through the game in coop makes it just almost impossible for the friend. You dont get boss loot, you get reduced xp/souls, you dont get healing upgrades or anything like that.

They could've just made it fully shared and just "flagged" all of the unique items you did get during coop so you wouldn't get duplicates on your own world later on that playthrough. edit: and also remove key items that might change progression on your own game after you leave coop game.

Seamless Coop should be playeable from start to finish without missing anything in the game.

Loot is available to both players. Why the hell are people saying this. The only items you cannot get are key items and pre-set level items like chests. That's it.
This is NO different than any other Souls Games, Elden Ring, Dark Souls. Etc. Why is it a problem all of a sudden???

Because in souls games you only go to help other players to fight a boss/ clear a level. Just because "other souls" (not including NioH and remnant) do it this way that it should be done always. I absolutely love all fromsoft games and i don't mind that they do it that way.

Being able to play through the entire game, without leaving the host, in coop makes this game slighlty different. Not getting upgrade materials, healing upgrades and stuff like that just doesn't work in this game.

[Siroldas]

Originally posted by Yuuma:

Originally posted by The Ultimate Despair:

Seems like you missed the part where it works just like any regular Dark Souls games.

i mean
it's an archaic system
if you have seamless coop then you might as well actually make it function like a seamless game
there's legitimately no point for the system to exist otherwise, kinda the point of the "seamless" part
why do people feel the need to defend CI games? this company has been making pretty bad games for a long time
i can think of maybe 1 decent game they've ever published/ developed
hopefully this game is good
just about every game i've played from them has been really bad

I love souls games from the bottom of my heart but as OP said, coop is kinda meh.
Remnant 2 fixed that so it should be like remnant 2 IMO.

[KoD]

Just so the morons in the audience get it, you cannot get pre-placed loot because it is story progress bound. Otherwise, you would get the key items before it was intended, or duplicate unique items. Hard, I know, but comprehension is a skill nobody puts points into nowadays.

[Puri_66]

i hope they will do a patch and add a serious seamless co-op, it's the first game souls like that you don't need to turn back to your world after a boss but you cannot pick up item and interact with npc? i really hope for a update where they change the co-op to a seamless like the elden ring one

[Vermilion Knight]

Originally posted by Ypho:

Originally posted by Vermilion Knight:

Loot is available to both players. Why the hell are people saying this. The only items you cannot get are key items and pre-set level items like chests. That's it.
This is NO different than any other Souls Games, Elden Ring, Dark Souls. Etc. Why is it a problem all of a sudden???

Because in souls games you only go to help other players to fight a boss/ clear a level. Just because "other souls" (not including NioH and remnant) do it this way that it should be done always. I absolutely love all fromsoft games and i don't mind that they do it that way.

Being able to play through the entire game, without leaving the host, in coop makes this game slighlty different. Not getting upgrade materials, healing upgrades and stuff like that just doesn't work in this game.

Have you played the game? Both the host and the co-op partner can upgrade healing items and both can upgrade weapons in the same game. You cannot obtain key items, which is literally like every other souls game. This game does things you CAN'T do in dark souls. You have to go to the bonfire and separate every single time you upgrade.

[Vermilion Knight]

Originally posted by KoD:

Just so the morons in the audience get it, you cannot get pre-placed loot because it is story progress bound. Otherwise, you would get the key items before it was intended, or duplicate unique items. Hard, I know, but comprehension is a skill nobody puts points into nowadays.

Thank you for having a brain and then using it.

[Vermilion Knight]

Originally posted by Puri_66:

i hope they will do a patch and add a serious seamless co-op, it's the first game souls like that you don't need to turn back to your world after a boss but you cannot pick up item and interact with npc? i really hope for a update where they change the co-op to a seamless like the elden ring one

Elden ring does not have seamless co-op.... It's a mod. That does not even come close to making sense.

[Lustii]

Originally posted by Vermilion Knight:

Originally posted by Ypho:

Because in souls games you only go to help other players to fight a boss/ clear a level. Just because "other souls" (not including NioH and remnant) do it this way that it should be done always. I absolutely love all fromsoft games and i don't mind that they do it that way.

Being able to play through the entire game, without leaving the host, in coop makes this game slighlty different. Not getting upgrade materials, healing upgrades and stuff like that just doesn't work in this game.

Have you played the game? Both the host and the co-op partner can upgrade healing items and both can upgrade weapons in the same game. You cannot obtain key items, which is literally like every other souls game. This game does things you CAN'T do in dark souls. You have to go to the bonfire and separate every single time you upgrade.

The actual hell are you on about? Majority of the items I've picked up for upgrades have been world loot meaning only I could pick it up, which would have been fine since me and my friend were playing different classes so I was just dropping him that stuff.

When it comes to healing, both players DO NOT get all the upgrades, since the healing upgrades are WORLD LOOT. (At least the ones I've found anyway)

Seriously doubting you have even played the game yourself.

[Lustii]

Originally posted by Vermilion Knight:

Originally posted by Puri_66:

i hope they will do a patch and add a serious seamless co-op, it's the first game souls like that you don't need to turn back to your world after a boss but you cannot pick up item and interact with npc? i really hope for a update where they change the co-op to a seamless like the elden ring one

Elden ring does not have seamless co-op.... It's a mod. That does not even come close to making sense.

The 'sense' is that Elden Ring's seamless co-op mod is what the developers were clearly trying to compare to since they advertised it as so.

Seamless definition: smooth and continuous, with no apparent gaps or spaces between one part and the next.

The problem here is that there are gaps. Gaps between the upgrades my friend gets compared to me, a gap between the healing upgrades I get compared to him and the slight gap of extra souls I get compared to him.

This game isn't seamless co-op and you're delusional if you honestly think otherwise.

[Jigovsky]

New to soulslike game?

[KingOneDa]

Originally posted by Howl:

Why even have full beginning to end coop if my friend cant get any of the good loot? Wtaf? Why would you ever play with anyone then?

never played a souls game ? u need to do it ;)

[Xtortion]

Originally posted by The Ultimate Despair:

Originally posted by Howl:

Why even have full beginning to end coop if my friend cant get any of the good loot? Wtaf? Why would you ever play with anyone then?

Seems like you missed the part where it works just like any regular Dark Souls games.

I guess you missed the part where they said they'll bring a way better and new co-op experience to this game? Which is Seamless and fully playable together.

Meanwhile the exp is crazy reduced and the loot isn't shared properly either.. This is what we want..

Basically the minimum.

You all got to stop comparing it to the other souls game when a co-op experience like this was promised and is the whole reason why a lot of people bought this game.

[dEEkAy]

there's so much white knighting going on here for no reason at all.

they advertised seamless coop and said that you can play beginning to end with a coop partner. now try doing that if only one gets the loot and the other has to pray for drops.

you want to know how seamless coop really works? go use the seamless coop mod for elden ring. loot is shared, story is shared, everything just works from a to z.

i was looking for a coop soulslike and i got one, although i will have to play every region twice. (host and guest).

[?Syntax Error]

Make MP actually work.

[Maximum Sloth]

Originally posted by Tastypaste:

I'm in the same boat, i'll pass unless they bring the co-op up to scratch. The way they call it "seamless co-op" makes it sound like they were modelling it after the seamless co-op mods but then decided to make it really bad for the joining player? makes no sense.

Same here...

I don't REALLY mind having to replay everything over again with my friend, but it's needlessly tedious especially when they market the game as "seamless" coop that is "next-gen".