Is it just me or...?

[Suwako]

Im on NG+ now, and any time I summon a lampbearer I just cant seem to summon some one one normal. Everyone is chugging holy elixirs, or heavy armor flickering flail. Apart from myself, I've never met a single person who doesn't attempt to cheese the crimson reaper the second he spawns either.

I don't mind people doing this in PvP, I'll kill them anyways- but its super miserable in PvE. It becomes an auto walker. I can't be the only one out here kicking people like that, right?

I know some people enjoy a free ride, but man, I just want to enjoy the game and share it with someone.

[Haks]

The translator translated rather crookedly, so I want to clarify. Are you surprised that everyone you summoned is an overpowered hulk or vice versa?

[Suwako]

Originally posted by Haks:

The translator translated rather crookedly, so I want to clarify. Are you surprised that everyone you summoned is an overpowered hulk or vice versa?

Im surprised everyone is using cheap tactics to simply not engage in the mechanics of PvE. If you dont want to block, dodge, or manage your spacing why would you join other lampbearers to just show them how apathetic you are to the game and it's mechanics.

I can understand the use of cheap builds for the purpose of farming, but not for Co-Op.

[Eggchin]

someone randomly spawned in my world and killed me

[F4$hi0n$h0w]

Hello I am flickering flail user with 99 vigor, 1200 P res and 700 each element res. When I join co op I clear mobs and rush the boss unless I notice the host is doing a quest. I find common enemies boring and unfairly placed. Boss fights are fun, Derva and Kukajin being my favorite. I just chill in the back and keep resurrecting host. I just one shot boss when I am out of crux for ress.

[F4$hi0n$h0w]

Originally posted by Suwako:

Originally posted by Haks:

The translator translated rather crookedly, so I want to clarify. Are you surprised that everyone you summoned is an overpowered hulk or vice versa?

Im surprised everyone is using cheap tactics to simply not engage in the mechanics of PvE. If you dont want to block, dodge, or manage your spacing why would you join other lampbearers to just show them how apathetic you are to the game and it's mechanics.

I can understand the use of cheap builds for the purpose of farming, but not for Co-Op.

Problem is 90% of people I help don't use mechanics. They just face tank or range cheese. One in ten people I join use shield for wither health, soul fly enemies, syphon or even try to perfect parry.

[Suwako]

So why not just equip something that allows you to interact with the fight? Is this just a power trip thing? When i get matched with lowbies i always just equip the ♥♥♥♥♥♥ stalker daggers because i know im so well versed in boss fights and most PvE, the only real threat is getting overzealous and over committing to offense.

This way, I'd like to think those lowbies can see more actually playing the game- dodging and using iframes and waiting for dps windows. So they can go "He seems to be doing 'x' thing and its working, I should too"

If i just go in and dunk on everything, people will just go "why am I even trying to use mechanics when i can just buy a Flail dirt cheap, or spam magic?"

[F4$hi0n$h0w]

Are you trolling? You can't buy Flickering, it is a free quest item and other flails are trash.

[Suwako]

You know what I meant. Doing the stupid shrines isn't hard or complicated.

[Haks]

Well, I think I understand what you mean, but it's a problem with the game itself, not builds. Few people are interested in playing without magic and default weapons

[Haks]

And personally, the parry mechanic is too dull for me, so I ignore it altogether

[Haks]

Originally posted by F4$hi0n$h0w:

Are you trolling? You can't buy Flickering, it is a free quest item and other flails are trash.

Yeah the rest of the cepas are really garbage like so many of the default weapons

[mayhem523]

Originally posted by F4$hi0n$h0w:

Hello I am flickering flail user with 99 vigor, 1200 P res and 700 each element res. When I join co op I clear mobs and rush the boss unless I notice the host is doing a quest. I find common enemies boring and unfairly placed. Boss fights are fun, Derva and Kukajin being my favorite. I just chill in the back and keep resurrecting host. I just one shot boss when I am out of crux for ress.

Do you think this is fun for the host to watch someone else beat their game for them? Do you run ahead of them opening all the shortcuts and chests too?

The real issue is that this is possible to begin with. They went way too far with the nerfs and I don't think anything scales for coop.

[floaty469]

Originally posted by Suwako:

Im on NG+ now, and any time I summon a lampbearer I just cant seem to summon some one one normal. Everyone is chugging holy elixirs, or heavy armor flickering flail. Apart from myself, I've never met a single person who doesn't attempt to cheese the crimson reaper the second he spawns either.

I don't mind people doing this in PvP, I'll kill them anyways- but its super miserable in PvE. It becomes an auto walker. I can't be the only one out here kicking people like that, right?

I know some people enjoy a free ride, but man, I just want to enjoy the game and share it with someone.

Well after the next 2 runs because I want all the achievements, I'm doing a strictly bucket build so if you summon me and I'm only hitting for 52 damage I don't want to hear it