After 70 hour i realized

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Odd stone acualy gives highest defance buff in the game for holy and wither damage. Considering most boss in the game uses holy damage i wasted my time with some other buffs. My holy defance reached from 760 to 1141 my wither defance reached from 678 to 1019 thats a solid %50 buff

İf you kill enemys with griveous strike you item drop chance increases if you kill them with umbral finsher its allmost guaranteed to drop an item. Thats how i farmed 6x Olandi rune

Bramble ring gives you highest hp regeneration in the game if you manage to smite enemys with 6 olandi rune if not one hit you smite them with atleast 2 hits. It was insanely broken at my first game but its acualy well balanced at new game +

Flickering Flail acualy far better then pieata's sword its easier to smite enemys but you can only get once if you allready got it before at new game + it will give you some resource.

If you kill red reaper more then twice with out leaving the umbral world game will start to act weird. Enemys will have some invisible barier. You wont be able to get near them no matter how hard you try. Or this only happening to me im not sure.

[ArtoriasOFtheAbyss]

interesting!

also, from what i ve read, you only can get once the flickering flail , so even on ng+ you can`t get it again and dual whield it

so the only way to dual whield it (im still not sure) is if you have various builds, if you already own the flail on your inferno build, drop the flail to a friend, so he can drop it to your radiance build and dual whield it , that in teory will work

bramble ring is amazing together with olandi runes, but as you say , who are op on ng aren`t op on ng+, because of those 1 million hp bosses and much more hp enemyes on ng+ compared to ng

some hours ago i play first time with the flickering flail, at only +8 with two runes and 50 radiance does very good damage , 411 damage to holy bulkwark , who has very high radiance defense , still not test the weapon art, i need to do more quest steps to unlock it and also get the armor , but the weapon as a flail (i dont like flails) is very good , but dual whield it will be 2x better

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Originally posted by ArtoriasOFtheAbyss:

interesting!

also, from what i ve read, you only can get once the flickering flail , so even on ng+ you can`t get it again and dual whield it

so the only way to dual whield it (im still not sure) is if you have various builds, if you already own the flail on your inferno build, drop the flail to a friend, so he can drop it to your radiance build and dual whield it , that in teory will work

bramble ring is amazing together with olandi runes, but as you say , who are op on ng aren`t op on ng+, because of those 1 million hp bosses and much more hp enemyes on ng+ compared to ng

some hours ago i play first time with the flickering flail, at only +8 with two runes and 50 radiance does very good damage , 411 damage to holy bulkwark , who has very high radiance defense , still not test the weapon art, i need to do more quest steps to unlock it and also get the armor , but the weapon as a flail (i dont like flails) is very good , but dual whield it will be 2x better

I also dont like flails but i dont have anything better to weild right now. I was thinking double justice but they are slow af so it basicly same with double pieta. And i have verry low stregth. But flickering flail and pieata has a good moves so im using it like this right now. There are some hammers and polearms i could try but i also betreyed gerlindel. So it wont be easy for me to try them all now.

[Blacksmith77K]

You will need the odd stone again if you own Pietas AND Elianne the Starveds sword dualwielding. Only as a reminder :o)