Disable all pvp.

[ItsSoVeryFluffy]

Please give us an option to disable pvp.

[Kim]

Originally posted by AlmaDarkSpell:

Originally posted by °｡💗AWESOME ME💗｡°:

WELL SAID.. EVEN THOUGH INVADERS HAVE GIVEN ME HARD TIME TOO SINCE I STARTED PLAYING SOULS LIKE GAMES SINCE 2016, I STILL UNDERSTAND IT AND DONT COME TO FORUMS WHINING ABOUT IT, THESE NOOBS NEED TO GET GUD AND OR PLAY OFFLINE

I love how passionate they are about putting out the resume. Well buddy, I've been playing souls games since 2011. And I have always deeply hated that you cannot co-op without interruptions. Because for one game it's fine, but when you've already played 6 games with the same mechanics it becomes repetitive and boring. There is no surprise anymore. The only thing left is the annoyance.

The game that I have enjoyed the most in terms of co-op was always Bloodborne. That game that at least gave us the opportunity to kill the lady with the sinister bell and continue through the level without unwanted surprises to ruin the experience. What a wonderful game. At the time I thought Fromsoftware was moving in the direction of making pvp optional, but it never happened. I guess that with Elden Ring people ended up getting tired and that's why the seamless coop mod came out that made a lot of people happy. The problem is, that's something we want in these games without the need for a mod. So console players will also be able to enjoy choosing freely.

the first one , i can understand that the new concept was misunderstood but why purchase the second , the third , the fourth , the fifth , the sixth , you knew then that there will be invasions , and by your definition , repetitive , boring & annoyance ?

Did the developers hide the invasion concept when promoting their game before launch ?

[AlmaDarkSpell]

Originally posted by Kim:

the first one , i can understand that the new concept was misunderstood but why purchase the second , the third , the fourth , the fifth , the sixth , you knew then that there will be invasions , and by your definition , repetitive , boring & annoyance ?

Did the developers hide the invasion concept when promoting their game before launch ?

It is well known that this game attracts many types of audiences. Many players, myself included, bought the game for the main campaign, the playable mechanics and the co-op to be able to play with my friends. I have never bought any game for pvp and I never will. I don't care about pvp one bit and I don't want it in my game. Simple.

[Kim]

Originally posted by AlmaDarkSpell:

Originally posted by Kim:

the first one , i can understand that the new concept was misunderstood but why purchase the second , the third , the fourth , the fifth , the sixth , you knew then that there will be invasions , and by your definition , repetitive , boring & annoyance ?

Did the developers hide the invasion concept when promoting their game before launch ?

It is well known that this game attracts many types of audiences. Many players, myself included, bought the game for the main campaign, the playable mechanics and the co-op to be able to play with my friends. I have never bought any game for pvp and I never will. I don't care about pvp one bit and I don't want it in my game. Simple.

Did the developers lie at any point about the link between cooperation and invasions ?

Have the developers offered you a way to play the main campaign, play the mechanics without invasions ?

[AlmaDarkSpell]

Originally posted by Kim:

Originally posted by AlmaDarkSpell:

It is well known that this game attracts many types of audiences. Many players, myself included, bought the game for the main campaign, the playable mechanics and the co-op to be able to play with my friends. I have never bought any game for pvp and I never will. I don't care about pvp one bit and I don't want it in my game. Simple.

Did the developers lie at any point about the link between cooperation and invasions ?

Have the developers offered you a way to play the main campaign, play the mechanics without invasions ?

In fact no, they haven't offered it.
Because a temporary consumable that is extremely difficult to obtain during the first run is not a solution to avoid invasions.

That's why we're asking the devs for the opportunity to deactivate it at will from the beginning of the game.

[Namethatworks]

Originally posted by AlmaDarkSpell:

Originally posted by Kim:

Did the developers lie at any point about the link between cooperation and invasions ?

Have the developers offered you a way to play the main campaign, play the mechanics without invasions ?

In fact no, they haven't offered it.
Because a temporary consumable that is extremely difficult to obtain during the first run is not a solution to avoid invasions.

That's why we're asking the devs for the opportunity to deactivate it at will from the beginning of the game.

In fact yes they have, you just aren't happy with it.

They could have given no way to avoid them at all.

But, instead of taking the olive branch they offered you want the whole tree.

[Kim]

Originally posted by AlmaDarkSpell:

Originally posted by Kim:

Did the developers lie at any point about the link between cooperation and invasions ?

Have the developers offered you a way to play the main campaign, play the mechanics without invasions ?

In fact no, they haven't offered it.
Because a temporary consumable that is extremely difficult to obtain during the first run is not a solution to avoid invasions.

That's why we're asking the devs for the opportunity to deactivate it at will from the beginning of the game.

correct me if I'm wrong, but an offline mode exists to play the campaign or play the mechanics , and there is also the controversial "mirror" that some like and others don't, it's 2 ways to play without invasions , right ?

This leaves the question unanswered: did the developers lie at some point about the link between cooperation and invasions ?

[AlmaDarkSpell]

Originally posted by Kim:

correct me if I'm wrong, but an offline mode exists to play the campaign or play the mechanics , and there is also the controversial "mirror" that some like and others don't, it's 2 ways to play without invasions , right ?

This leaves the question unanswered: did the developers lie at some point about the link between cooperation and invasions ?

Originally posted by Namethatworks:

In fact yes they have, you just aren't happy with it.

They could have given no way to avoid them at all.

But, instead of taking the olive branch they offered you want the whole tree.

Offline mode does not allow coop. We want coop without invasions.
Nobody has said they lied. This is a request that many users want and that is why we are here.

Alt+F4 is still there. As a dev said in the last patch comments, they can't disable it. And if they disable it, players can always force closing the game, turn off the computer, cut off the power in the house, etc, etc. If people really don't want invasion, they will do everything to avoid invasions. So, why not include it in the game by default?

[Kim]

Originally posted by AlmaDarkSpell:

Originally posted by Kim:

correct me if I'm wrong, but an offline mode exists to play the campaign or play the mechanics , and there is also the controversial "mirror" that some like and others don't, it's 2 ways to play without invasions , right ?

This leaves the question unanswered: did the developers lie at some point about the link between cooperation and invasions ?

Originally posted by Namethatworks:

In fact yes they have, you just aren't happy with it.

They could have given no way to avoid them at all.

But, instead of taking the olive branch they offered you want the whole tree.

Offline mode does not allow coop. We want coop without invasions.
Nobody has said they lied. This is a request that many users want and that is why we are here.

So you can play the main campaign , play the mechanics offline , right ?

You can also play the main campaign, play the mechanics and cooperate online with the use of a mirror, thus preventing any invasion, right?

Since the developers didnt lie about the link between invasions and cooperation , and you have ways to play the way you want , why want a change ?

In the developers words : "For those playing online, be warned, as heroes from other realms can, and will invade."

Or do you have another reason as to why coop without invasions ?

[AlmaDarkSpell]

Originally posted by Kim:

You can also play the main campaign, play the mechanics and cooperate online with the use of a mirror, thus preventing any invasion, right?

I see that you are not reading my posts. The mirror of protection item is temporary, sellers do not sell it infinitely and is difficult to obtain. Especially in the first playthrough of the game, so it doesn't work for those who want to evade invasions starting the game. In addition to that, it is an item of dubious functionality. My friends and I have sometimes received an invasion right after consuming one. As you can see, it is not a viable option to avoid invasions.

[Kim]

Originally posted by AlmaDarkSpell:

Originally posted by Kim:

You can also play the main campaign, play the mechanics and cooperate online with the use of a mirror, thus preventing any invasion, right?

I see that you are not reading my posts. The mirror of protection item is temporary, sellers do not sell it infinitely and is difficult to obtain. Especially in the first playthrough of the game, so it doesn't work for those who want to evade invasions starting the game. In addition to that, it is an item of dubious functionality. My friends and I have sometimes received an invasion right after consuming one. As you can see, it is not a viable option to avoid invasions.

I read your messages, I just don't share the same point of view on how you see the mirror, it's a problem of perception : you see the mirror as a rare object, difficult to obtain, I don't :

you can buy 20 mirrors from merchants with vigor per playthrought , and a infinite number from the shrine of Orius with Pilfered Coins.

We could argue about 20 not being sufficient per playthrough but imo , if you play coop , you will get enough Pilfered Coins to buy any additional mirrors , should you need to.

For the mirror , the description speak for itself : "A mirror which reflects malevolent energy, temporarily protecting you from those seeking to perform the Crimson Ritual."

As for the mirror not working, I can't comment on it, since I haven't encountered this bug, but you can report the bug to the developers to fix it.

If you think that the mirror does not provide enough protection time, you can ask the developers to extend the duration of this item.

[AlmaDarkSpell]

Originally posted by Kim:

As for the mirror not working, I can't comment on it, since I haven't encountered this bug, but you can report the bug to the developers to fix it.

If you think that the mirror does not provide enough protection time, you can ask the developers to extend the duration of this item.

Yes, as it has been requested multiple times to fix the quests of Exacter Dunmire and Kukajin being activated as a boss and the devs continue to ignore this issues. Is that what you mean? The devs have shown at this point multiple times that they are not paying attention to real problems in the game.

To be clear, I understand that our request is also unlikely to be heard. But in any case, that doesn't mean we don't have the right to express how we feel on the issue about the forced pvp in multiplayer. Because it's not just about this game, it's also about games that will be created in the future.

[Sobs Echo® Prestige Sounds]

Originally posted by AlmaDarkSpell:

Originally posted by Kim:

As for the mirror not working, I can't comment on it, since I haven't encountered this bug, but you can report the bug to the developers to fix it.

If you think that the mirror does not provide enough protection time, you can ask the developers to extend the duration of this item.

Yes, as it has been requested multiple times to fix the quests of Exacter Dunmire and Kukajin being activated as a boss and the devs continue to ignore this issues. Is that what you mean? The devs have shown at this point multiple times that they are not paying attention to real problems in the game.

To be clear, I understand that our request is also unlikely to be heard. But in any case, that doesn't mean we don't have the right to express how we feel on the issue about the forced pvp in multiplayer. Because it's not just about this game, it's also about games that will be created in the future.

That’s perfectly reasonable and that’s why this thread is so useful.

Those who suffer from invasions, even if a few minority of 3-5 people over thousand purchasers, have the right to comfort each other in echo chambers like this.

A safe, comfortable environment where their voices can resonate as thousands.

As you said, it’s quite unlikely devs will change the game, on the contrary, they’re empowering invasions and studying a solution for alt+F4 quitters, but as you’ve the legitimate tools to avoid invasions in game, you’ve the tools to find comfort here with people alike.

There’s no reason to be ashamed.

[楊玄。杨玄。LangrisserWWE]

Originally posted by Sobs Echo® Prestige Sounds:

Originally posted by AlmaDarkSpell:

Yes, as it has been requested multiple times to fix the quests of Exacter Dunmire and Kukajin being activated as a boss and the devs continue to ignore this issues. Is that what you mean? The devs have shown at this point multiple times that they are not paying attention to real problems in the game.

To be clear, I understand that our request is also unlikely to be heard. But in any case, that doesn't mean we don't have the right to express how we feel on the issue about the forced pvp in multiplayer. Because it's not just about this game, it's also about games that will be created in the future.

That’s perfectly reasonable and that’s why this thread is so useful.

Those who suffer from invasions, even if a few minority of 3-5 people over thousand purchasers, have the right to comfort each other in echo chambers like this.

A safe, comfortable environment where their voices can resonate as thousands.

As you said, it’s quite unlikely devs will change the game, on the contrary, they’re empowering invasions and studying a solution for alt+F4 quitters, but as you’ve the legitimate tools to avoid invasions in game, you’ve the tools to find comfort here with people alike.

There’s no reason to be ashamed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fkowqz2m_h0

[PeeGee]

PvP was disabled for me by the devs 2 patches ago.

Previously I could invade within a few seconds and actually get into other peoples games about 50% of the time.

Since the ping changes, I've invaded 0 times.

[AlmaDarkSpell]

Originally posted by Sobs Echo® Prestige Sounds:

That’s perfectly reasonable and that’s why this thread is so useful.

Those who suffer from invasions, even if a few minority of 3-5 people over thousand purchasers, have the right to comfort each other in echo chambers like this.

A safe, comfortable environment where their voices can resonate as thousands.

As you said, it’s quite unlikely devs will change the game, on the contrary, they’re empowering invasions and studying a solution for alt+F4 quitters, but as you’ve the legitimate tools to avoid invasions in game, you’ve the tools to find comfort here with people alike.

There’s no reason to be ashamed.

I'm not. You can't be a quitter if you didn't sign up to what you're refusing in the first place.

Btw already the developers said that Alt+F4 cannot be disabled. So sorry.