Lords of the Fallen
Was that really suppose to be a satisfying ending? (Radiant)
Im literally laughing so hard rn lmao The last two bosses were such a let down hollllllyyy lmao

I thought Adyr was gonna be this epic conclusion with a hard af boss battle but NOPE. Literally just fought these little disheveled firemen while the end was just some words plastered across the screen LMAO and then poof, End game credits LMAO

Again, was this game bad? No but come tf on >___> The ending was obviously rushed. The old saying reins true with this one. Wide as an ocean. Shallow as a puddle.

Again this game WAS NOT BAD. But it was mid.
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Radiant ending in the bad ending. Fire ending is the good ending. Umbral is the Chaotic Neutral ending.

Radiant is intended to be the good ending here, regardless of how one chooses to interpret it.
No, radiant ending is 100% meant to be the bad ending. I mean umbral is even worse, but it screws over everyone and everything equallly, so it is neutral.

P.S. The Batman always pays his debts
Can he get a letter from his parents to attesting to this?
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Radiant is intended to be the good ending here, regardless of how one chooses to interpret it.
No, radiant ending is 100% meant to be the bad ending. I mean umbral is even worse, but it screws over everyone and everything equallly, so it is neutral.

P.S. The Batman always pays his debts
Can he get a letter from his parents to attesting to this?

How dare you mention Batman's parent!

Radiant is supposed to be the good ending, because;

In this ending we do exactly what we were told to do, we cleanse the beacon and we defeat evil, what comes after that is an unfortunate circumstances, but good guys won, bad guy lost.

In Inferno we choose to let evil enter our world, we actually help him do that and become his servant or disciple, so since we become evil, which is bad, so it is bad ending.

In Umbral, I am not even gonna attempt to tell you what it means, I will just say, it is batsh`t crazy (pun intended)

You are free to choose any ending and interpret it in any way you like, but Radiance is supposed to be light, while Inferno represents dark, therefore, radiance is supposed to be good ending and inferno bad.
Автор останньої редакції: Daredevil; 4 груд. 2023 о 21:37
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If Adyr has Rhogar making people into skinsuits, imagine what he's gonna do once he's out... I get what you're saying, Fire being Good Ending, but at least Orius just purges those who dont believe in him properly (the remaining Hallowed Sentinels and most of the Orian Radiance church), while leaving those of true Faith (who are probably redeemable people).

Sorry, but Adyr making Rhogar, and then having to trounce through whole towns of people on pikes with his symbol everywhere is not a 'good' ending; for that much I would rather turn the world over to Umbral and the void, if we're just going to Genocide all humans cuz reasons.
Adyr isn't making people into skin suits, he is whispering temptations into their ears, and they are the ones reaching out and taking it.

Adyr created the world and humanity. Then when they started to turn on him, he created his angels the Rhogar to fight back. The only thing about Adyr is that he believes in Survival of the fittest.

Orius and his followers are even worse. Adyr is about strength and loyalty. Orius is about lies, deception, control, pain, and suffering, all while wearing a fake smile.
Wow, that came completely out of left field, feel like this is how satanists project on Abrahamic religions...never seen anything that describes rhogar as angels (called a demon god in the intro for a reason), it is a disease created by adyr that takes shape depending on the individual, and can only be resisted through the person's willpower, least from what I can tell through the lore. There is nothing to support Rhogar being good that EXCEPT, the mention that Adyr is trying to "go home," but is only brought up once at the end, with no other allusion to it, and he intends to exterminate humanity in the process, which i think they mean to explore in dlc if we get it. Trying to defend Rhogar as "good" definitely requires a good deal of mental gymnastics and cognitive leaps.

Not that Orius is good either, his idea is to punish and purge every sin. Adyr is rage and barbarism (or, loosely, survival of the fittest...), Orius is zealotry and puritanical, and the Putrid Mother is decay and negentropy. All are bad, but that's not even the worst part of the endings: They're all weak, uninspired, and demotivating. The Souls games had downer endings, but at least they were in some sense poetic or empowering in some sense, these are just bad in the way Hollywood subverts expectations: disappointing and insulting to your time all for the sake of some inane rug-pull or twist. They really need to put out some DLC if only to redo all the endings.
Автор останньої редакції: RKNM; 4 груд. 2023 о 21:49
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Adyr isn't making people into skin suits, he is whispering temptations into their ears, and they are the ones reaching out and taking it.

Adyr created the world and humanity. Then when they started to turn on him, he created his angels the Rhogar to fight back. The only thing about Adyr is that he believes in Survival of the fittest.

Orius and his followers are even worse. Adyr is about strength and loyalty. Orius is about lies, deception, control, pain, and suffering, all while wearing a fake smile.
Wow, that came completely out of left field, feel like this is how satanists project on Abrahamic religions...never seen anything that describes rhogar as angels (called a demon god in the intro for a reason), it is a disease created by adyr that takes shape depending on the individual, and can only be resisted through the person's willpower, least from what I can tell through the lore.

Not that Orius is good either, his idea is to punish and purge every sin. Adyr is rage and barbarism, Orius is zealotry and puritanical, and the Putrid Mother is decay and negentropy. All are bad, but that's not even the worst part of the endings: They're all weak, uninspired, and demotivating. The Souls games had downer endings, but at least they were in some sense poetic or empowering in some sense, these are just bad in the way Hollywood subverts expectations: disappointing and insulting to your time. They really need to put out some DLC if only to redo all the endings.

All endings are stupid and literally the same as the last game, aside from fancy cutscene or a special boss fight or lack thereof.

I am willing to bet Inferno will be taken as canon in Lords of the Fallen 2033, and we finally put an end this stupid cycle, by finishing the very thing we set out to do the first time.

We finally, face Adyr's full might and we slay him, once and for all. Bad guy will die and then what happens next is not our concern, because probably it will be something that makes no sense but appear as if it makes perfect sense to everyone
Adyr is the creator of the world and mankind. Yes, he is a bit barbaric. He believes in survival of the fittest, aka how things work naturally in Nature.

If you look up the definition of "ANGEL" you will find various definitions that typically boil down to something similar to this:

"a spiritual being believed to act as an attendant, agent, or messenger of God,"

This is exactly what the Rhogar are. They were created bu Adyr as his agents and warriors when humanity began to betray him.

Orius is a usurper. He is trying to take over what Adyr created.

The (Umbral) Beast is basically an Lovecraftian Outer God, and the personification of entropy.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cthulhu_Mythos_deities#Outer_Gods

If let into the inner circles of reality, she will devour everything until nothing is left

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We also don't fight Adyr at his full power. He is still trapped and diminished. That's why even in the inferno ending, he takes over the body of the person who imprisoned him, because his own body is basically useless.
Автор останньої редакції: D. Flame; 4 груд. 2023 о 22:28
...Adyr created humanity. but there is also a reason they rebeled against him, as he was brutal, as he is not just a god of humanity, but base primal barbarism and burtality (hence the Rhogar...and the Proselyte's did not put those nails in themselves, they were tortured to his cause). He seems to be a god of conflict and war, and for conflict there needs to be 2.

That said, Orius is the god of light, but definitely not compassion. Seems that humanity traded a vengeful master with an indifferent, as Orius just aims to purge, and their followers punish themselves to be "pure", which doesn't include kindness or compassion. It's still unsure why humanity chose to side with Orius, or who created the LOTF universe. Maybe humanity wanted peace through Orius purity, but it seems Orius also seeks conquest, or at least his followers do.

It seems the putrid mother predates all of them. and is based on the thermodynamic principle of negentropy, in which everything freezes and is "consumed" as a form of rot and decay. The Nohuta worshipped her, but went extinct, and given the depth of where the well is located, is prehistoric (kind of hope we'll see something like a Verdant-Father figure, representing the principle of entropy.

In short, they all suck, but to claim Adyr is good is bonkers. And again, their greatest sin: all being boring in terms of their endings.
Автор останньої редакції: RKNM; 4 груд. 2023 о 23:12
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...Adyr created humanity. but there is also a reason they rebeled against him, as he was brutal, as he is not just a god of humanity, but base primal barbarism and burtality (hence the Rhogar...and the Proselyte's did not put those nails in themselves, they were tortured to his cause). He seems to be a god of conflict and war, and for conflict there needs to be 2.

That said, Orius is the god of light, but definitely not compassion. Seems that humanity traded a vengeful master with an indifferent, as Orius just aims to purge, and their followers punish themselves to be "pure", which doesn't include kindness or compassion. It's still unsure why humanity chose to side with Orius, or who created the LOTF universe. Maybe humanity wanted peace through Orius purity, but it seems Orius also seeks conquest, or at least his followers do.

It seems the putrid mother predates all of them. and is based on the thermodynamic principle of negentropy, in which everything freezes and is "consumed" as a form of rot and decay. The Nohuta worshipped her, but went extinct, and given the depth of where the well is located, is prehistoric (kind of hope we'll see something like a Verdant-Father figure, representing the principle of entropy.

In short, they all suck, but to claim Adyr is good is bonkers. And again, their greatest sin: all being boring in terms of their endings.
They turned on Adyr because Orius came along, and they were tricked into believing that Orius was the creator.

I am not denying that he is brutal. Nature is brutal, and he basically represents that natural order.
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...Adyr created humanity. but there is also a reason they rebeled against him, as he was brutal, as he is not just a god of humanity, but base primal barbarism and burtality (hence the Rhogar...and the Proselyte's did not put those nails in themselves, they were tortured to his cause). He seems to be a god of conflict and war, and for conflict there needs to be 2.

That said, Orius is the god of light, but definitely not compassion. Seems that humanity traded a vengeful master with an indifferent, as Orius just aims to purge, and their followers punish themselves to be "pure", which doesn't include kindness or compassion. It's still unsure why humanity chose to side with Orius, or who created the LOTF universe. Maybe humanity wanted peace through Orius purity, but it seems Orius also seeks conquest, or at least his followers do.

It seems the putrid mother predates all of them. and is based on the thermodynamic principle of negentropy, in which everything freezes and is "consumed" as a form of rot and decay. The Nohuta worshipped her, but went extinct, and given the depth of where the well is located, is prehistoric (kind of hope we'll see something like a Verdant-Father figure, representing the principle of entropy.

In short, they all suck, but to claim Adyr is good is bonkers. And again, their greatest sin: all being boring in terms of their endings.
They turned on Adyr because Orius came along, and they were tricked into believing that Orius was the creator.

I am not denying that he is brutal. Nature is brutal, and he basically represents that natural order.
Orius came first. According to Radiant Guardian, he first brought light to the universe through severing his own head to create light.

Again though, doesn't stop him from being bad, though it is also suggested in-game, that it was really his followers that became more zealous. That said, in the first game, Orians were a lot more peaceful and compassionate, and again, seems to have gotten worse over time. So hard to say which, but hardly matters, they all suck.
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They turned on Adyr because Orius came along, and they were tricked into believing that Orius was the creator.

I am not denying that he is brutal. Nature is brutal, and he basically represents that natural order.
Orius came first. According to Radiant Guardian, he first brought light to the universe through severing his own head to create light.

Again though, doesn't stop him from being bad, though it is also suggested in-game, that it was really his followers that became more zealous. That said, in the first game, Orians were a lot more peaceful and compassionate, and again, seems to have gotten worse over time. So hard to say which, but hardly matters, they all suck.
Fine, they all suck, but Adyr sucks the least.
Whoever thought that a glorified Deacons of the Deep was acceptable for Adyr should have their brain donated to science so that it may be thoroughly examined.
Nope, no ending should please you, nor make you feel "the hero" in this type of games. ♥♥♥♥ just gone worse.
Автор останньої редакції: Sobs Echo® Prestige Sounds; 5 груд. 2023 о 0:55
Цитата допису D. Flame:
Adyr is the creator of the world and mankind. Yes, he is a bit barbaric. He believes in survival of the fittest, aka how things work naturally in Nature.

If you look up the definition of "ANGEL" you will find various definitions that typically boil down to something similar to this:

"a spiritual being believed to act as an attendant, agent, or messenger of God,"

This is exactly what the Rhogar are. They were created bu Adyr as his agents and warriors when humanity began to betray him.

Orius is a usurper. He is trying to take over what Adyr created.

The (Umbral) Beast is basically an Lovecraftian Outer God, and the personification of entropy.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cthulhu_Mythos_deities#Outer_Gods

If let into the inner circles of reality, she will devour everything until nothing is left

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We also don't fight Adyr at his full power. He is still trapped and diminished. That's why even in the inferno ending, he takes over the body of the person who imprisoned him, because his own body is basically useless.

We know that we don't fight him at his full power, don't know who said we do.

I mentioned something similar but that was for Lotf 2033 aka Lords of the Fallen 3.
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Цитата допису D. Flame:
Adyr is the creator of the world and mankind. Yes, he is a bit barbaric. He believes in survival of the fittest, aka how things work naturally in Nature.

If you look up the definition of "ANGEL" you will find various definitions that typically boil down to something similar to this:

"a spiritual being believed to act as an attendant, agent, or messenger of God,"

This is exactly what the Rhogar are. They were created bu Adyr as his agents and warriors when humanity began to betray him.

Orius is a usurper. He is trying to take over what Adyr created.

The (Umbral) Beast is basically an Lovecraftian Outer God, and the personification of entropy.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cthulhu_Mythos_deities#Outer_Gods

If let into the inner circles of reality, she will devour everything until nothing is left

EDIT:
We also don't fight Adyr at his full power. He is still trapped and diminished. That's why even in the inferno ending, he takes over the body of the person who imprisoned him, because his own body is basically useless.

We know that we don't fight him at his full power, don't know who said we do.

I mentioned something similar but that was for Lotf 2033 aka Lords of the Fallen 3.
You did, you said it. You literally typed out “face his full might.”
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We know that we don't fight him at his full power, don't know who said we do.

I mentioned something similar but that was for Lotf 2033 aka Lords of the Fallen 3.
You did, you said it. You literally typed out “face his full might.”

Yeah and that was for LOTF 2033 aka Lords of the Fallen 3... are you okay bro?

Edit:

I was joking that in Lords of the Fallen 3 the plot will revolve again around Adyr, but this time we will face his full might and kill him once and for all, and end the cycle, from Lotf 2014 to Lotf 2033
Автор останньої редакції: Daredevil; 5 груд. 2023 о 7:52
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So is no one here going to acknowledge the fact that, technically Lords of the Fallen 2014 and Lords of the Fallen 2023 has identical plot (sort of).

In Lords of the Fallen 2014 it was about Adyr and his return and slaying him, we were given 3 choices, which seems similar to me now more than ever, don't use the rune given by Adyr, use it on your weapon or use it on your armor. So we ended up doing Adyr's bidding because he managed to convince us that he is not the bad guy, the bad guy is Antana and they chose Harkyn not using the rune ending as canon.

In Lords of the Fallen 2023, it is again about Adyr and stopping his return by slaying him, we are again given 3 choices, radiant in which we stop his return, Inferno in which we let him come and serve him and Umbral, we just sort of help some Alien Mother-figure in absorbing everything.

I am guessing in Lords of the Fallen 2033, it will be again about stopping Adyr and slaying him because this time they chose return of adyr as canon from previous entry, so we face his full might and eventually kill him, or we go for the second option which is again doing his bidding or we go for some crazy third option

interesting.
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