bucket is attacking me

[Fredrik.thylin]

I did not know anything about this quest, but i started it. Now the bucket guy is attacking me in most of the boss fights. Is there anything i can do?
Do i have to start another character instead?

[PlagueFather505]

ya you failed his quest. When you get 4 of the buckets that drop after the small bosses you need to take them to him. If you have more then 4 he will attack you.

[IchigoMait]

https://thelordsofthefallen.wiki.fextralife.com/The+Way+of+the+Bucket
"If you grab more than 4 before trying to turn them in, bucket-lord will then help the bosses instead of you. "

[Kalameet]

Originally posted by IchigoMait:

https://thelordsofthefallen.wiki.fextralife.com/The+Way+of+the+Bucket
"If you grab more than 4 before trying to turn them in, bucket-lord will then help the bosses instead of you. "

Jesus, what a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ of quest is that? There's no way "greed behavior" is tied to a "magic number" code thing the NPC doesn't even tell.

[IchigoMait]

Originally posted by Kalameet:

Originally posted by IchigoMait:

https://thelordsofthefallen.wiki.fextralife.com/The+Way+of+the+Bucket
"If you grab more than 4 before trying to turn them in, bucket-lord will then help the bosses instead of you. "

Jesus, what a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ of quest is that? There's no way "greed behavior" is tied to a "magic number" code thing the NPC doesn't even tell.

"For greed amongst the downtrodden is seen as truly marred."
Literally in the hint.

"When time came to do or die, they emerged from their throes,
With meagre improvisations, spreading such desperate blows.
Should you as well seek meaning in these humble souls' disguise,
Don makeshift twin attire and find the one that lies.
Salute, attest and once more show honour to their semblance,
And you’ll amass the sincere gifts of one held in remembrance.
Yet hoard not without measure, show mutual regard,
For greed amongst the downtrodden is seen as truly marred."

[Fredrik.thylin]

I can't defeat the bosses with the bucket guy helping them, so I have to start a new character. But I dont want to start over now, so I will leave the game, and come back couple of months later. Hopefully the multiplayer will be sorted.

[Kalameet]

Originally posted by IchigoMait:

Originally posted by Kalameet:

Jesus, what a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ of quest is that? There's no way "greed behavior" is tied to a "magic number" code thing the NPC doesn't even tell.

"For greed amongst the downtrodden is seen as truly marred."
Literally in the hint.

SNIP

Again, there's no true hint on "how much is considered greed", hence the description means nothing. 4 items is literally a "magic number" thrown into game code.
Also, once again with this "here's gibberish english from times of old. enjoy." ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥

The NPC implicitedly asks people to try his check once they get [1: N, 2: N, 3:N, 4:YAY, 5+: fail!] bucket things, or guess via failing.

Conclusion: bad quest design.

[IchigoMait]

Originally posted by Kalameet:

Originally posted by IchigoMait:

"For greed amongst the downtrodden is seen as truly marred."
Literally in the hint.

SNIP

Again, there's no true hint on "how much is considered greed", hence the description means nothing. 4 items is literally a "magic number" thrown into game code.
Also, once again with this "here's gibberish english from times of old. enjoy." ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥

The NPC implicitedly asks people to try his check once they get [1: N, 2: N, 3:N, 4:YAY, 5+: fail!] bucket things, or guess via failing.

Conclusion: bad quest design.

Don't you understand what a hint means?
If you get greedy, you will suffer.

The question is how greedy are you gonna be?

And if you are greedy enough, the game will punish you for it, until you beat the final boss.

Don't blame the hint for not giving you a straight answer, if you could've just googled for the answer, it's not like you're the only person in the world who is playing the same questline.

The original intent of the questline is to figure out how greedy you can be without suffering for it.
If you'd be smart enough, and read the hint, you could've backed up your save file before a boss fight, to see what happens when you get greedy enough, also before you get a new reward you check if you can give 'em still to the bucket man.

There are some other hidden stuff in the game, like the Stick, Hound and the Failed Pilgrim Set, also Odd Stone, Pieta's Sword and Elianne the Starved's Sword. (the combination of those 3 things, two hidden mechanics, besides boss weapons having hidden mechanics on their own, that is if the devs didn't disable 'em)

[D. Flame]

Originally posted by IchigoMait:

If you'd be smart enough, and read the hint, you could've backed up your save file before a boss fight, to see what happens when you get greedy enough

Save Scumming isn't "being smart," it is making an excuse for poor, trial and error game design.

[Fishypixels]

You can discard the buckets from your inventory to make him stop helping bosses.

[Tsar Platinum]

Yeah this quest is kinda wack. I understand the hint about being greedy with the buckets but since you can't turn them in 1 at a time, you need 4. There's no real way to know 4 is the magic number unless you go back and check every single time until he takes them.

[Fredrik.thylin]

Great i will ditch the buckets.

[Fredrik.thylin]

I found out that i have messed up several quests and got Winterberry killed. This means i can't buy her items. This is BS. I will stop playing and start a new playthrough with a guide at some later date. Hopefully there will be more patches that will improve this game.

[Limp Squirrel]

Originally posted by IchigoMait:

Originally posted by Kalameet:

Jesus, what a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ of quest is that? There's no way "greed behavior" is tied to a "magic number" code thing the NPC doesn't even tell.

"For greed amongst the downtrodden is seen as truly marred."
Literally in the hint.

"When time came to do or die, they emerged from their throes,
With meagre improvisations, spreading such desperate blows.
Should you as well seek meaning in these humble souls' disguise,
Don makeshift twin attire and find the one that lies.
Salute, attest and once more show honour to their semblance,
And you’ll amass the sincere gifts of one held in remembrance.
Yet hoard not without measure, show mutual regard,
For greed amongst the downtrodden is seen as truly marred."

Where in this hint do you see a reference to four? I don't see any way to tell the limit is four here.

[IchigoMait]

Originally posted by D. Flame:

Originally posted by IchigoMait:

If you'd be smart enough, and read the hint, you could've backed up your save file before a boss fight, to see what happens when you get greedy enough

Save Scumming isn't "being smart," it is making an excuse for poor, trial and error game design.

In real life it's called being smart, you're just giving yourself superficial limits.

I haven't savescummed here, no need.

But I did save scum in elden ring, made a save before sacrificing Melina, sacrificed her, then got the frenzied flame, got that ending without fighting Melina, loaded my old save, then did not sacrifice her, got the frenzied flame, used that to sacrifice myself, but then proceeded to cleanse myself from frenzied flame, so Melina was like "wait what you can't do that, I'm gonna leave permanently", got to end, backed up, save scummed all the endings except order and ranni's questline, then got the ranni ending and went into ng+1, then got the last ending that I missed, but for achievements it didn't matter.

[IchigoMait]

Originally posted by Squidcake:

Originally posted by IchigoMait:

"For greed amongst the downtrodden is seen as truly marred."
Literally in the hint.

"When time came to do or die, they emerged from their throes,
With meagre improvisations, spreading such desperate blows.
Should you as well seek meaning in these humble souls' disguise,
Don makeshift twin attire and find the one that lies.
Salute, attest and once more show honour to their semblance,
And you’ll amass the sincere gifts of one held in remembrance.
Yet hoard not without measure, show mutual regard,
For greed amongst the downtrodden is seen as truly marred."

Where in this hint do you see a reference to four? I don't see any way to tell the limit is four here.

Seems you don't understand the idea behind the entire hint.
Everything is a hint, it doesn't literally tell you where to go, or what to do.

"Yet hoard not without measure, show mutual regard,
For greed amongst the downtrodden is seen as truly marred."

Your problem is that you don't understand the definition of greed.
It's your problem to figure out what the limit is, if you don't save scum, you try again next time, but at the cost he is there as an extra annoyance in battles.

You could've at least guessed it's 4 or 5, considering how many he is wielding at a time. No idea why he needs 'em though. Could be that, he lost one in a fight, not a visual representation, so you have to give him back.