Spells seem very weak

[☼Solaire Of Astora☼]

Is it just me or does the spells seem kinda weak? I started out as the Adyr cultist and thought my little ball of fire was decent right up until I met Pieta, I defeated her and got some more spells on my way through the game, I've gone basically all-in on my radiance and inferno stats since I thought magic would at least work somewhat like in the prior game.

Imagine my surprise when I get punished for speccing into the magic stats (which are not even explained how work in-game WTF!?).

I just got through the mountain where it rains all the time and my spells can barely even tickle the enemies, fire doesn't even make enemies catch on fire and holy seems mostly healing based, based on what spells I've gotten so far I would dearly wish I could re-spec but I have a feeling that, that is a feature that's locked behind multiple bosses or a VERY lengthy farm.

Also as a side note, why does the game not tell us what the stats actually does!? in Dark souls I can just click the "detailed" button and get told what my stats are for but here I am forced to guess what inferno and radiance even does. In the original LOTF there was only a SINGLE stat for magic, it was also named "MAGIC" it even had a noticeable impact on the usage of said magic, but noooo not here, here you have to GUESS.

[Rena Ichigawa]

As someone that went strength radiance. My spells hit several times harder than the giant slab of a aword i was using.

[mayhem523]

Are you upgrading your catalyst at the blacksmith and using rings/pendants/runes to enhance spells and mana?

[Medina_Rico]

All 3 magic schools (Inferno, Radiance, Umbral) are powerful. Make sure you upgrade your catalyst along with your weapon. And of course, you won't just be walking through enemies with spells right away, but they'll still be useful until you get there.

I'd advise looking up how to find spells for the school of magic you chose. Simply because collecting them isn't a very straightforward thing.

You can also respec once pretty early. You buy a thing from the dude you get your boss weapons, armors and spells from. Cost 8,000.. Getting the item to respec after that is a little more difficult. Unless someone drops you the respec item.

[☼Solaire Of Astora☼]

Originally posted by Medina_Rico:

All 3 magic schools (Inferno, Radiance, Umbral) are powerful. Make sure you upgrade your catalyst along with your weapon.

I'd advise looking up how to find spells for the school of magic you chose. Simply because collecting them isn't a very straightforward thing.

You can also respec once pretty early. You buy a thing from the dude you get your boss weapons, armors and spells from. Cost 8,000.. Getting the item to respec after that is a little more difficult. Unless someone drops you the respec item.

I got lost in the main hub and just went out into the world and I have not upgraded my stuff at all because I thought it would be like in the OG LOTF where I find a blacksmith 1/4 of the game in and slot runes into my weapons, I've also just straight up bought the few spells I have available to me from the main hub, I never found any blacksmith or forge or anything of the like.

If some are still confused, I went into this game thinking it would be like the OG in pretty much every way, but apparently it's not.

[Majere]

Don't be too proud to look things up, LOTF is pretty obtuse at times. From the sounds of it you've got as far as the Bellroom vestige, which means you're pretty close to finding the smith and you really need to.

Inferno spells get extremely strong, especially Magma Burst which can one-shot some seriously nasty mobs through a wall. The advantage of casters in LOTF is that there are plenty of melee weapons which scale well, or only with, Inferno or Radiance so you can do melee and magic equally well. Also, even mobs that resist a particular type of magic aren't incredibly resistant to it, so only using Inferno shouldn't be a big problem.

[mayhem523]

If you killed the archer woman with dogs boss, then you walked right by the blacksmith. You can hear her talking and hammering as you pass over her.

Go to the bellroom vestige, down the elevator, and drop down. You'll land on top of her cell. Kill the nearby enemies and give her the key you loot from them and she'll show up at the hub.

[Sin Archbishop of Vainglory]

umbral spells do alot of damage and can be basically cast infinitely with a necklace , the early painful echoes will get you through most of the game till you get the ones that cause explosions then its literally just walking and spamming spells and everything dies also everything except for late game umbral enemies are weak against it, and even then ones that resist it still take enough damage and since you have infinite casts it dosnt matter really.

The one early umbral spell that deals some of the most damage and is a small aoe is from the poison swamp boss

when i did a radiance and inferno build i mostly just used the buffs and didnt really use any of the damage spells except the basic ones.

[☼Solaire Of Astora☼]

If I hve to be honest I have no idea what these last 3 replies have been talking abuot other than how powerful spells become LATER in the game, I have also NOT found the "bellroom vestige" I went through the mountain and now I'm somewhere where the sun actually shines for the first time in 2 hours, I DID try to turn back but my AMD drivers keep getting erros when I try to go through the passage, I'll try warping to a seedling I places just before the passage and keep looking in the mountain since apparently the blacksmith is there, based on what I've read here he should'nt be that far away.

[☼Solaire Of Astora☼]

I found and killed the sacred resonance of tenacity boss, am I on the right track to find the smith?

[Majere]

Originally posted by ☼Solaire Of Astora☼:

I found and killed the sacred resonance of tenacity boss, am I on the right track to find the smith?

If you've killed the Resonance of Tenacity (well done, BTW, if you did that with un-upgraded weapons!) then you've passed the Bellroom- its the Vestige right outside the door you unlocked with the Pilgrim's Perch Key to get to him. You can see the names of the vestiges when you warp.

The lift to the smith is right by that door, but it won't move until activated from below. Face that lift, turn left, and follow the main path of the level from there on, and you should find the smith eventually. The area you're in is a much higher-level part of the game.

[GodfatherPlunger]

explore more, smith unlock is close to that bellroom door vestige at the cliff.

[☼Solaire Of Astora☼]

Originally posted by Majere:

Originally posted by ☼Solaire Of Astora☼:

I found and killed the sacred resonance of tenacity boss, am I on the right track to find the smith?

If you've killed the Resonance of Tenacity (well done, BTW, if you did that with un-upgraded weapons!) then you've passed the Bellroom- its the Vestige right outside the door you unlocked with the Pilgrim's Perch Key to get to him. You can see the names of the vestiges when you warp.

The lift to the smith is right by that door, but it won't move until activated from below. Face that lift, turn left, and follow the main path of the level from there on, and you should find the smith eventually. The area you're in is a much higher-level part of the game.

So you're telling me that I've gone to the mansion on top of the mountain for no reason...
When the smith was RIGHT THERE THE WHOLE TIME!?

[Majere]

Originally posted by ☼Solaire Of Astora☼:

Originally posted by Majere:

If you've killed the Resonance of Tenacity (well done, BTW, if you did that with un-upgraded weapons!) then you've passed the Bellroom- its the Vestige right outside the door you unlocked with the Pilgrim's Perch Key to get to him. You can see the names of the vestiges when you warp.

The lift to the smith is right by that door, but it won't move until activated from below. Face that lift, turn left, and follow the main path of the level from there on, and you should find the smith eventually. The area you're in is a much higher-level part of the game.

So you're telling me that I've gone to the mansion on top of the mountain for no reason...
When the smith was RIGHT THERE THE WHOLE TIME!?

Oddly enough, I did the exact same thing on my first playthough. Mind you, that was when the key was cheaper and the Resonance could be cheesed to death by making him fall off the stairs repeatedly...

[☼Solaire Of Astora☼]

Originally posted by Majere:

Originally posted by ☼Solaire Of Astora☼:

So you're telling me that I've gone to the mansion on top of the mountain for no reason...
When the smith was RIGHT THERE THE WHOLE TIME!?

Oddly enough, I did the exact same thing on my first playthough. Mind you, that was when the key was cheaper and the Resonance could be cheesed to death by making him fall off the stairs repeatedly...

What key are you talking about? the only keys I have are ones I've found on the ground or in the umbral.

[Turd Cutter]

You need to upgrade your catalyst as well as put more points In the stats that scale with said catalyst