Upgrade materials and upgrade prices

[Warbreaker]

Please make upgrade materials drop more, I swapped to a 2nd weapon, I have my original weapon at +9 and the 2nd one at +7 when I already found 2 materials for +10

Also, the prices to upgrade are ridiculous IMHO.

Even for a build I have committed I can't test new weapons because they are nearly impossible to upgrade, and I'm Lv92 already, how come I can only upgrade one weapon to max at this point?

I'm using a pure STR build and I would like to max out 3 STR weapons, I'm not asking too much, it is currently extremely difficult to change your mind about weapons.

[Blacksmith77K]

3 weapons per run

You will have 3 big stones per run, so 3 weapons to +10

You will (can) find 2 of these while gaming

[Warbreaker]

Originally posted by Blacksmith77K:

3 weapons per run

You will have 3 big stones per run, so 3 weapons to +10

Yeah, but from +6 to +9 is so hard, I'm at the Manse Brothers area already.
Also, you can't max out a shield if you wanted to, we need 5 per NG cycle.

[Blacksmith77K]

+6 up to +9 you can find a route in the swamp. Put a 'increase findings' rune in your shield and consume a 'white rabbit paw' per run

[Ein Vöglein im Wind]

Originally posted by Blacksmith77K:

3 weapons per run

You will have 3 big stones per run, so 3 weapons to +10

You will (can) find 2 of these while gaming

There are 4 chunks in the game. And they are not that hard to find.
The real problem are the large shards because for some reason you need 20 large shards per waepon which is more then regular and small shards COMBINED.

[Warbreaker]

Originally posted by Ein Vöglein im Wind:

There are 4 chunks in the game. And they are not that hard to find.
The real problem are the large shards because for some reason you need 20 large shards per waepon which is more then regular and small shards COMBINED.

Yes, that's the issue now, large shards are very hard to get, that's why I can't make the 2nd weapon +9, also; do you guys agree the upgrade prices are too high?

[Ein Vöglein im Wind]

I think the prices would be fine for upgrading if enemies would drop a little bit more vigor later in the game.
Or if we would get more of those vigor skulls. Those are also a bit rare for no reason.

[Blacksmith77K]

Right 4, my fault

[Æsir]

you can buy large shards at some point in the game from the smith though. There are also ways to farm it.

[Phantom Limb]

Large shards are a common drop from holy bulwarks. You can reliably farm them in Forsaken Fen, in the area above the swamp.

[Warbreaker]

Originally posted by Phantom Limb:

Large shards are a common drop from holy bulwarks. You can reliably farm them in Forsaken Fen, in the area above the swamp.

That's fine, but when you introduce the word farming, I lose my appetite for it, many games get you the materials you need by just following the natural progression, I won't name games because it would start an argument (not with you personally) but I do hate games that you must farm to get certain things, is boring, waste of anyone's time.

[Warbreaker]

Think of it this way, if you have to max out 4 weapons, by the time you get the 4 chunks, do you have all the previously required materials, or do you have to farm them? if you have to farm it, shove it up your hole, farming .... this game has plenty of tedium TM already to be arsed with farming.

[ir3b3ld3i]

The blacksmith sells you the stones from +6 to +9 infinitely when you really need them, before the final stretch of the game, if you want them before you have to farm and the drop is really very low

[Warbreaker]

Originally posted by ir3b3ld3i:

The blacksmith sells you the stones from +6 to +9 infinitely when you really need them, before the final stretch of the game, if you want them before you have to farm and the drop is really very low

Umbral ending be damned, I have to kill her before a certain point, and I want her hammer, I want to max out her hammer, which would be the 3rd weapon on my repository: long sword, grand sword, hammer and shield.

If I have to kill the blacksmith, then I have to farm, this is a design flaw, damn +6 to +9 materials and upgrade prices, I don't want to farm, is boring, I don't need boring, I don't need to waste my time in such unfun repetitive tasks, make this more natural is all I'm asking.

[Warbreaker]

The drop rate should be much better for up to +9 and upgrade prices much lower, so you can test weapons up to +9 and only commit with chunks once you are certain, is 2023, many games don't make changing your mind about builds as hard as this one.

Many even give you infinite respec but that's another subject, I'm fine with my STR build with 12/12 rad/inf for catalyst but there are so many weapons I could use.

[Phantom Limb]

Originally posted by Warbreaker:

Originally posted by Phantom Limb:

Large shards are a common drop from holy bulwarks. You can reliably farm them in Forsaken Fen, in the area above the swamp.

That's fine, but when you introduce the word farming, I lose my appetite for it, many games get you the materials you need by just following the natural progression, I won't name games because it would start an argument (not with you personally) but I do hate games that you must farm to get certain things, is boring, waste of anyone's time.

I agree that farming is a waste of time.
Yet, sometimes it is necessary to get some rare piece of armor or a weapon.
I'm also almost 100% positive you can find the required amount of materials to upgrade at least one weapon of your choice by simply progressing through the game.