is it easier than ds3?

[This World is an illusion, exile]

i see that mobs are rly without hpm what about all other stuff?

[Lesmir]

Originally posted by mayhem523:

Originally posted by Lesmir:

the difficulty here is more... cheap and artificial compare to DS where the difficulty is more about skill and pattern recognition than level design...

I don't see how they are that different. For example, the area before pontiff sulyvahn, you have multiple melee enemies spamming spinning sword attacks at you while fire mages sit behind them and spam you with ranged/aoe attacks.

There's also multiple areas where giant ballistas launch massive arrows at you from the top of cliffs or towers while you fight through mobs on the ground.

you are comparing a few instance across 3-5 game to 1 game which have wayyyyy more situation like that.

also souls game usualy give you more tools to deal with thing like that and enemy shooting at you are also in range of your attack. in LOTF enemy can be 5 time out of range and they still shoot at you( dev even aknowledged that and its going to be reduce so... )

[BhaalSakh]

The maps are way harder, but the bosses are easier. Overall, by not including DLCs, I have found LOTF to be harder to get through.

[ColonelBaker]

I agree, the bosses in LOTF are much easier than DS3. The levels are about on par with going through the Cathedral of the Deep a little early for your first time. There's a lot of enemies and you won't really know where to go most of the time.

[Justinyl]

Dark Souls 3 is easier. In that game, upgraded weapons feel strong.

[Haps]

Agree. The further in game the easier are bosses, like they didn't consider hero getting stronger... I'm a terrible player but few last bosses were 1-2 tries. A big minus for the game.

Maps are real challenge here, for now... We will see after density nerf.

[楊玄。杨玄。LangrisserWWE]

I would say, the way games devs in most game I bought this year. Did not release a finish product. In fact, pretty much every game I bought this year, comes out full of game affecting bugs or untested game play. To put it simple, game devs these days, release their game and fix them later with patches. So, this game could get better.

As of now, this game has better level design and a harder but a lot more satisfying exploration, which is fun and difficult. BUT!!! After much whining, they nerf Umbral mobs. So... yeah, it is what it is. Boss fight is stupidly easy as you progress, this is already mentioned by others before me.

Now I think Souls Genre games will probably cease to exist eventually. This happened in Elden Ring, Wo Long and Lord of the Fallen. As long as it helps to sell well, even the guys in From Soft are willing to nerf their game and they are Pioneer of the souls like series. Lord of the Fallen devs? hehehe.

[✪ GIGO]

Originally posted by SWORDLION:

DS3 bosses are harder, LOTF levels are harder.

This, there are plenty of mobs that can kill you in 2 hits.

[60mph gorilla]

More or less the games levels are the hardest thing. Bosses are challenging but can be trivial if you have the right build. Get used to gank spanks and gotcha moments that put DS2 to shame.

Leveling is super easy and even more lenient than DS2's leveling. 12k vigor to level up to level 104 while in DS1 it requires somewhere in the region of 50k I believe? You can easily go into the umbral in the starting area, farm for an hour, and come out to be level 50+ and just stomp the first few hours of areas.

[Quickdraw]

Originally posted by SWORDLION:

DS3 bosses are harder, LOTF levels are harder.

This, but there are exceptions.

[楊玄。杨玄。LangrisserWWE]

Originally posted by Quickdraw:

Originally posted by SWORDLION:

DS3 bosses are harder, LOTF levels are harder.

This, but there are exceptions.

They nerf the levels, so it is no longer true, DS are harder on both spectrum after the nerf.

[mayhem523]

Originally posted by Lesmir:

Originally posted by mayhem523:

I don't see how they are that different. For example, the area before pontiff sulyvahn, you have multiple melee enemies spamming spinning sword attacks at you while fire mages sit behind them and spam you with ranged/aoe attacks.

There's also multiple areas where giant ballistas launch massive arrows at you from the top of cliffs or towers while you fight through mobs on the ground.

you are comparing a few instance across 3-5 game to 1 game which have wayyyyy more situation like that.

also souls game usualy give you more tools to deal with thing like that and enemy shooting at you are also in range of your attack. in LOTF enemy can be 5 time out of range and they still shoot at you( dev even aknowledged that and its going to be reduce so... )

It's a lot more than a few instances... the first thing you encounter out of the tutorial in ds1 is melee fighters with firebombs and arrows backing them up from high ground. Elden Ring has tons of it. The entirety of DS2 sotfs is worse. I think people have short memories when it comes to comparing lotf to fs games.

This year I completed at least 1 playthrough of ds1-3, bloodborne, elden ring, lies of p, armored core 6, and lotf, so they are all pretty fresh in my mind. They are all designed to frustrate the hell out of you and make you come up with solutions to "artificial difficulty". They all have loads of traps, ganks, and dense mobs with melee and ranged.

Edit: I would rank lotf as the easiest game out of them all, btw.

[Okat]

this is definitely easiest by far in terms of boss fights. Very similar to DS2 bosses except for some bosses from DS2 DLC. This game is only hard at the beginning when you are underlvled where you just get one shotted by moves you haven't seen. I don't think I died to a single boss apart from Lightreaper, Pieta, and that one fight in ice area that tries to overwhelm you with adds.

Enemy placement and trying to overwhelm you is another different beast. But again, it's only an issue when you are hitting like a wet noodle early on. As your build becomes solidified, it becomes manageable. My advice if you are struggling with gank squads is to swap between one handed and two handed to see which one has a good sweep attacks. If you are using spear like I did, I had another weapon to dual wield sweep attack. I think the game is designed around that.

[damian2472005]

not really.. the enemys are more agressive and in larger groups. ive got 1000 hours in ds3+ and castle Bramis is handy my Ass over and over again.

[有碳不玩]

Yes, but use more items and spells and don’t play according to the DS3 experience or this game will be harder than DS3.