Do weapons among weapon types have unique attacks?

[balmora pete]

I liked playing the original Lords of the Fallen but I thought it was very lame that, for example, you find a sword. You play with it for a while and learn its moveset. Then you find another weapon of the same type, also a sword. It has different stats, looks different but performs exactly the same in terms of moveset.

Does this game also have this problem or are weapons different among their own type?

Thanks for your time

[Baron01]

Move set is the same for every weapon in a given category. There are certain weapon that have special effect, e.g. on-kill effect, but their move set is still the same.

[Honk1]

In addition to what Baron01 said, there are no unique powerstance movesets per weapon class. You can powerstance any two weapons and I think there are broader power stance movesets per weightclass (maybe one for daggers, one for normal sized weapons like short swords (= straight swords in this game) and hammers, one for bigger weapons like long swords and one for grand weapons), but the movesets will not be different when you e.g. powerstance axes vs. powerstance short swords.

There are, however, unique secret special moves on a few weapon combinations when powerstanced, but they don't work right out the gate, you have to jump through some hoops to enable them.

[I_come_in_peace]

Originally posted by Honk1:

There are, however, unique secret special moves on a few weapon combinations when powerstanced, but they don't work right out the gate, you have to jump through some hoops to enable them.

Oh, didn't know that. Could you elaborate?

[Honk1]

Originally posted by I_come_in_peace:

Oh, didn't know that. Could you elaborate?

The multi-attack move you get when pressing heavy attack + block (so R2 + L1) is different for these.

For example: If you get both the right-hand and left-hand Lightreaper sword, powerstance them, upgrade them to the max and (this is the hoop) completed the dark crusader questline, you get an attack similar to one of the Lightreaper's attacks.

You can see the animation on the wiki: https://thelordsofthefallen.wiki.fextralife.com/Right-hand+Lightreaper+Sword

Pieta's Sword and Elianne's Sword also have a similar mechanic when powerstanced with each other (with a different trigger, I think it involves the "odd stone" you can show Pieta). There are probably more combinations like that in the game.

[Fresh]

well this is the best thing i've read all day.

[I_come_in_peace]

Originally posted by Honk1:

Originally posted by I_come_in_peace:

Oh, didn't know that. Could you elaborate?

The multi-attack move you get when pressing heavy attack + block (so R2 + L1) is different for these.

For example: If you get both the right-hand and left-hand Lightreaper sword, powerstance them, upgrade them to the max and (this is the hoop) completed the dark crusader questline, you get an attack similar to one of the Lightreaper's attacks.

You can see the animation on the wiki: https://thelordsofthefallen.wiki.fextralife.com/Right-hand+Lightreaper+Sword

Pieta's Sword and Elianne's Sword also have a similar mechanic when powerstanced with each other (with a different trigger, I think it involves the "odd stone" you can show Pieta). There are probably more combinations like that in the game.

Thanks! How did you find that out? Are there any hints in the game I missed? I wondered what the odd stone was about, but I don't want to look up the wiki all the time.

[ZenDragon]

sadly there is no sense in having any unique moves if pvp is broken.

[MasterZalm]

Originally posted by Honk1:

Originally posted by I_come_in_peace:

Oh, didn't know that. Could you elaborate?

The multi-attack move you get when pressing heavy attack + block (so R2 + L1) is different for these.

For example: If you get both the right-hand and left-hand Lightreaper sword, powerstance them, upgrade them to the max and (this is the hoop) completed the dark crusader questline, you get an attack similar to one of the Lightreaper's attacks.

You can see the animation on the wiki: https://thelordsofthefallen.wiki.fextralife.com/Right-hand+Lightreaper+Sword

Pieta's Sword and Elianne's Sword also have a similar mechanic when powerstanced with each other (with a different trigger, I think it involves the "odd stone" you can show Pieta). There are probably more combinations like that in the game.

oh thats ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ sick, I had no clue that was a thing. I wonder how many more hidden weapon stuff there is out there?

[Fresh]

has me thinkin the perfume may also be a "hoop". but idk.

[Honk1]

Originally posted by I_come_in_peace:

Originally posted by Honk1:

The multi-attack move you get when pressing heavy attack + block (so R2 + L1) is different for these.

For example: If you get both the right-hand and left-hand Lightreaper sword, powerstance them, upgrade them to the max and (this is the hoop) completed the dark crusader questline, you get an attack similar to one of the Lightreaper's attacks.

You can see the animation on the wiki: https://thelordsofthefallen.wiki.fextralife.com/Right-hand+Lightreaper+Sword

Pieta's Sword and Elianne's Sword also have a similar mechanic when powerstanced with each other (with a different trigger, I think it involves the "odd stone" you can show Pieta). There are probably more combinations like that in the game.

Thanks! How did you find that out? Are there any hints in the game I missed? I wondered what the odd stone was about, but I don't want to look up the wiki all the time.

I didn't find out myself, I read it somewhere. No direct hints in the game, only that it seems kind of natural to powerstance these swords and that the dark crusader quest is related to the Lightreaper. Seemed to me more like something you might stumble upon by accident.

There are other paired weapons, e.g. the bringer of left + right stillness swords or hallowed praise + hallowed condemnation, but I haven't read anything about unique moves for them, but maybe they exist and people just haven't figured out the triggers yet.

[MasterZalm]

Originally posted by I_come_in_peace:

Thanks! How did you find that out? Are there any hints in the game I missed? I wondered what the odd stone was about, but I don't want to look up the wiki all the time.

I mean for the two weapon sets, the left/right handed Lightreaper, as well as the left/right bringer of stillness, it makes sense. Get one of each, put them in the proper hands, and do the thing.

If there IS one for Pieta and Elianne, its probably based on the story for the Umbral ending(Elianne being the boss of the Umbral Ending) and might deal with their hidden lore on the items.

I mean, if you look at the weapons themselves, both Pieta's and Elianne's weapons look extremely similar, and they have a ton of things in common with their backstories. Trying not to be spoilery, but the Odd Stone, Elianne, Pieta, and the Orphanage are all tied together. So it makes sense that their weapons could work together in some fashion.

I have also heard talk of all boss weapons having a type of unique thing they each do, hence why every boss has a weapon, even bosses without weapons(Congregator of Flesh has a spear...for some reason)

[Fresh]

Originally posted by MasterZalm:

Originally posted by I_come_in_peace:

Thanks! How did you find that out? Are there any hints in the game I missed? I wondered what the odd stone was about, but I don't want to look up the wiki all the time.

I mean for the two weapon sets, the left/right handed Lightreaper, as well as the left/right bringer of stillness, it makes sense. Get one of each, put them in the proper hands, and do the thing.

If there IS one for Pieta and Elianne, its probably based on the story for the Umbral ending(Elianne being the boss of the Umbral Ending) and might deal with their hidden lore on the items.

I mean, if you look at the weapons themselves, both Pieta's and Elianne's weapons look extremely similar, and they have a ton of things in common with their backstories. Trying not to be spoilery, but the Odd Stone, Elianne, Pieta, and the Orphanage are all tied together. So it makes sense that their weapons could work together in some fashion.

I have also heard talk of all boss weapons having a type of unique thing they each do, hence why every boss has a weapon, even bosses without weapons(Congregator of Flesh has a spear...for some reason)

so how does that work with the spurned prodigy? because he has more lore then congregator does.

[MasterZalm]

Originally posted by Sawayaka:

so how does that work with the spurned prodigy? because he has more lore then congregator does.

Not sure, I guess I didnt fact check myself, I just remembered the Congregator has a weapon for some reason.

[Fresh]

Originally posted by MasterZalm:

Originally posted by Sawayaka:

so how does that work with the spurned prodigy? because he has more lore then congregator does.

Not sure, I guess I didnt fact check myself, I just remembered the Congregator has a weapon for some reason.

lol yeah hes got st latimers spear, the hushed saint right? seems like a connection there. you have to level these weapons up to +5 ? and do a quest? can you forget how to do the special if you NG+? cuz quests reset

[I_come_in_peace]

Originally posted by MasterZalm:

Originally posted by I_come_in_peace:

Thanks! How did you find that out? Are there any hints in the game I missed? I wondered what the odd stone was about, but I don't want to look up the wiki all the time.

I mean for the two weapon sets, the left/right handed Lightreaper, as well as the left/right bringer of stillness, it makes sense. Get one of each, put them in the proper hands, and do the thing.

If there IS one for Pieta and Elianne, its probably based on the story for the Umbral ending(Elianne being the boss of the Umbral Ending) and might deal with their hidden lore on the items.

I mean, if you look at the weapons themselves, both Pieta's and Elianne's weapons look extremely similar, and they have a ton of things in common with their backstories. Trying not to be spoilery, but the Odd Stone, Elianne, Pieta, and the Orphanage are all tied together. So it makes sense that their weapons could work together in some fashion.

I have also heard talk of all boss weapons having a type of unique thing they each do, hence why every boss has a weapon, even bosses without weapons(Congregator of Flesh has a spear...for some reason)

Guess I should pay attention to the story bits then after all. Ah, but that way of story telling is so tedious. One wrong decision and you cannot progress them and you only know afterwards ...