So a religious dark souls?

[BOXman]

Aside from this being a soul clone but with bigger Christianity references.

Anyone else feels like this looks worst than Elden Ring? Even though it uses UE5? I swear the gameplay trailer looks dated. Dunno why.

[BOXman]

Originally posted by Kai:

Seemed like a dark fantasy medieval european setting, but looking at the characters in the trailer, they ruined it. western devs cant help but woke it up. pass

What made it woke for you?

[moffman]

the fact that they focus so much on the graphics is telling, souls games live and die by their gameplay, not graphics. go figure that the vast majority of souls copycats and wannabees tend to have mid to garbage gameplay, i genuinely hope this one is different but to be 100% honest, the fact that its barely shown in a "gameplay" trailer is very suspect. just show us normal gameplay already, why hide it ? the generic art direction and UE5 stock sound effects dont help at all, too many of these devs assume dark souls is dark and edgy when its really not, its more of a somber dark than an edgy dark. everything about this game just seems very been there done that, and lacking any original inspiration in the slightest

[moffman]

Originally posted by Kai:

Seemed like a dark fantasy medieval european setting, but looking at the characters in the trailer, they ruined it. western devs cant help but woke it up. pass

fastest way to get me to drop all interest in a game that i otherwise would have kept up with, the pre-order garbage too especially killed interest for me

[BOXman]

Originally posted by moffman:

the fact that they focus so much on the graphics is telling, souls games live and die by their gameplay, not graphics. go figure that the vast majority of souls copycats and wannabees tend to have mid to garbage gameplay, i genuinely hope this one is different but to be 100% honest, the fact that its barely shown in a "gameplay" trailer is very suspect. just show us normal gameplay already, why hide it ? the generic art direction and UE5 stock sound effects dont help at all, too many of these devs assume dark souls is dark and edgy when its really not, its more of a somber dark than an edgy dark. everything about this game just seems very been there done that, and lacking any original inspiration in the slightest

I mean to be fair, dark souls has some really dark parts. For example, souls of Boreal. Or the cathedral secret order.

[moffman]

Originally posted by BOXman:

Originally posted by moffman:

the fact that they focus so much on the graphics is telling, souls games live and die by their gameplay, not graphics. go figure that the vast majority of souls copycats and wannabees tend to have mid to garbage gameplay, i genuinely hope this one is different but to be 100% honest, the fact that its barely shown in a "gameplay" trailer is very suspect. just show us normal gameplay already, why hide it ? the generic art direction and UE5 stock sound effects dont help at all, too many of these devs assume dark souls is dark and edgy when its really not, its more of a somber dark than an edgy dark. everything about this game just seems very been there done that, and lacking any original inspiration in the slightest

I mean to be fair, dark souls has some really dark parts. For example, souls of Boreal. Or the cathedral secret order.

true but i meant the overall tone and aesthetics, its more somber and sad than "OHH YEAH SPIKY EDGES AND BLOOD AND SPIKES AND DEATH ARENT WE SO METAL !!!???"

[BOXman]

Yeah, the dark souls' theme focuses on the cycle ending and the option to give new hope to this broken/dying world. Rather than be "I'm 13 and this is deep" dark type thingy.

[Demiurge]

Originally posted by moffman:

Originally posted by Kai:

Seemed like a dark fantasy medieval european setting, but looking at the characters in the trailer, they ruined it. western devs cant help but woke it up. pass

fastest way to get me to drop all interest in a game that i otherwise would have kept up with, the pre-order garbage too especially killed interest for me

i'm genuinely curious, what's woke in it?

[λNerdyBoiλ]

Originally posted by Demiurge:

Originally posted by moffman:

fastest way to get me to drop all interest in a game that i otherwise would have kept up with, the pre-order garbage too especially killed interest for me

i'm genuinely curious, what's woke in it?

I just watched the trailer, no where did I see any woke content. You can't just call everything "woke" lol. Use it when it's actually applicable.
Maybe it's a marketing thing, they say "this game is woke" to get me to watch the trailer and I take the bait and realize the game looks metal and badass.

[Traumaturgy]

I didnt like this trailer, previous one was better. This one looked pretty boring and unappealing, and whole gameplay part was generic.
I dont know if seccond comment as woke meant black inquisitor, but it was also a strange choice, as in medieval Europe (and CI and Deck13 are both central EU companies) there were little to none black people, not to mention none of them was high church hierarchy. I know its fantasy and you can put magic and unicorns here, so not historically accurate game, but it still looks like really forced addition especially for us europeans.

[MapleOmega]

I'm a fan of dark fantasy in general, ill be watching this one with vested interest.

[Keman]

Originally posted by λNerdyBoiλ:

Originally posted by Demiurge:

i'm genuinely curious, what's woke in it?

I just watched the trailer, no where did I see any woke content. You can't just call everything "woke" lol. Use it when it's actually applicable.
Maybe it's a marketing thing, they say "this game is woke" to get me to watch the trailer and I take the bait and realize the game looks metal and badass.

He called it woke because it has a black man in it. The inclusion of women in it probably also contributed. I wouldn't take it seriously. These days, "woke" is just used to mean "it's not entirely filled with white men and it upsets my fragile sensibilities".

[Title27]

Its not lookin' good folks

[<:)]

Originally posted by moffman:

the fact that they focus so much on the graphics is telling, souls games live and die by their gameplay, not graphics. go figure that the vast majority of souls copycats and wannabees tend to have mid to garbage gameplay, i genuinely hope this one is different but to be 100% honest, the fact that its barely shown in a "gameplay" trailer is very suspect. just show us normal gameplay already, why hide it ? the generic art direction and UE5 stock sound effects dont help at all, too many of these devs assume dark souls is dark and edgy when its really not, its more of a somber dark than an edgy dark. everything about this game just seems very been there done that, and lacking any original inspiration in the slightest

Yeah, Miyazaki's creative vision is what makes soulsborne / ER amazing. I haven't seen a single 'soulslike' that even comes close to his level of world building and subtle themes tying everything together. Elden Ring looks great because the design is so cohesive; it doesn't need shiny UE5 mats and lighting engine. This game looks worse graphically than ER, at least from the trailer, solely due to ER's superior art direction.

[<(^-^)>]

Originally posted by Keman:

Originally posted by λNerdyBoiλ:

I just watched the trailer, no where did I see any woke content. You can't just call everything "woke" lol. Use it when it's actually applicable.
Maybe it's a marketing thing, they say "this game is woke" to get me to watch the trailer and I take the bait and realize the game looks metal and badass.

He called it woke because it has a black man in it. The inclusion of women in it probably also contributed. I wouldn't take it seriously. These days, "woke" is just used to mean "it's not entirely filled with white men and it upsets my fragile sensibilities".

Someone didn't like something? bring up black people and women fast!!
Get a new playbook guys.

[Eunostos]

Originally posted by Kai:

Seemed like a dark fantasy medieval european setting, but looking at the characters in the trailer, they ruined it. western devs cant help but woke it up. pass

Then you probably go from this to unironically calling other people easily triggered, because people who use this word seem to lack basic self-reflection skills.