batman died is a wrong move

[stmac571]

it is a bad idea that batman will not appear and be the series. these characters is unable to replace batman for the Gotham city

[Lucifer ★✬]

Publicado originalmente por Iron Horse:

Batman could have just been on hiatus. The Justice League is in the emails. No reason to kill batman.

I take it you haven't finished the game yet and are jumping conclusions

If you have finished the game then your just showing your a bit.... slow, being the whole story revolves around it

[Iron Horse]

Publicado originalmente por Lucifer ★✬:

Publicado originalmente por Iron Horse:

Batman could have just been on hiatus. The Justice League is in the emails. No reason to kill batman.

I take it you haven't finished the game yet and are jumping conclusions

If you have finished the game then your just showing your a bit.... slow, being the whole story revolves around it

I have finished the game. The initial plot didn't need Batman to die, nor at the end of the game.

You must be a bit slow that you are not following me, or were just failed by your parents and teachers that you don't know how to act.

[Lucifer ★✬]

Publicado originalmente por Iron Horse:

Publicado originalmente por Lucifer ★✬:

I take it you haven't finished the game yet and are jumping conclusions

If you have finished the game then your just showing your a bit.... slow, being the whole story revolves around it

I have finished the game. The initial plot didn't need Batman to die, nor at the end of the game.

You must be a bit slow that you are not following me, or were just failed by your parents and teachers that you don't know how to act.

The whole plot is about batman "dying". If you missed that then you just smooth brained though the game

[Void]

Publicado originalmente por Lucifer ★✬:

sometimes its tim... hell, sometimes its ♥♥♥♥

Who...?

[Lucifer ★✬]

Publicado originalmente por FunkBaconDeluxe:

Publicado originalmente por Lucifer ★✬:

sometimes its tim... hell, sometimes its ♥♥♥♥

Who...?

Ha, ha. Very funny....

Nightwing. We cant say he's real name caz it's also the name of a peepee.

If you wanna know a word that you cant read just quote the post. It shows the word then

[Void]

Publicado originalmente por Lucifer ★✬:

If you wanna know a word that you cant read just quote the post. It shows the word then

Oh that's really cool! How do I do that?

[Lucifer ★✬]

Publicado originalmente por FunkBaconDeluxe:

Publicado originalmente por Lucifer ★✬:

If you wanna know a word that you cant read just quote the post. It shows the word then

Oh that's really cool! How do I do that?

i just said how to.... by hitting quote on the post you can see what they said. its also why icons show up as the :code: and not the icon in quoted messages

[Iron Horse]

Publicado originalmente por Lucifer ★✬:

Publicado originalmente por Iron Horse:

I have finished the game. The initial plot didn't need Batman to die, nor at the end of the game.

You must be a bit slow that you are not following me, or were just failed by your parents and teachers that you don't know how to act.

The whole plot is about batman "dying". If you missed that then you just smooth brained though the game

I understand this.

My comment was address the writing of the game, and the plot.

The OP: "Batman dying was the wrong move."

I agree. As a plot device, they could have done a lot of other things towards creating a game based on The Bat Family with No Batman.

[Lucifer ★✬]

Publicado originalmente por Iron Horse:

Publicado originalmente por Lucifer ★✬:

The whole plot is about batman "dying". If you missed that then you just smooth brained though the game

I understand this.

My comment was address the writing of the game, and the plot.

The OP: "Batman dying was the wrong move."

I agree. As a plot device, they could have done a lot of other things towards creating a game based on The Bat Family with No Batman.

True that.

But when the whole games and plot is based around "what if batman dead" you have to accept and follow that.

Hell l, if they make a sequal (unlikely) that could always do a "batman not around/ batmans doing other stuff/ batman still to hurt to do action stuff"

[Iron Horse]

Publicado originalmente por Lucifer ★✬:

Publicado originalmente por Iron Horse:

I understand this.

My comment was address the writing of the game, and the plot.

The OP: "Batman dying was the wrong move."

I agree. As a plot device, they could have done a lot of other things towards creating a game based on The Bat Family with No Batman.

True that.

But when the whole games and plot is based around "what if batman dead" you have to accept and follow that.

Not really.

This game died. The plot could be sent to some distant corner of the DC Multiverse with other failed media.

When this game has about 450 people in game during the day, and zero at night, and something like Spiderman, which is an older game more recently ported to PC, when it has 4,500 or so, there is a problem there.

[Hexagoros]

Publicado originalmente por Lucifer ★✬:

Publicado originalmente por Iron Horse:

I understand this.

My comment was address the writing of the game, and the plot.

The OP: "Batman dying was the wrong move."

I agree. As a plot device, they could have done a lot of other things towards creating a game based on The Bat Family with No Batman.

True that.

But when the whole games and plot is based around "what if batman dead" you have to accept and follow that.

Hell l, if they make a sequal (unlikely) that could always do a "batman not around/ batmans doing other stuff/ batman still to hurt to do action stuff"

No one 'has to' accept and follow that.

DC killed off Superman way back when, and it was done right. People ate it up. To this day, it's considered one of the best moments in all of comics.

Why? Because Superman's death to Doomsday was a huge, dramatic event, and was the culmination of the original Doomsday line. Superman's death also played out to help defeat Doomsday, making it not just dramatic moment, but also a pivotal moment.

Here in Gotham Knights, the writers tried to set up something big, but they just never pulled it off. Batman's death ultimately felt like it was there for shock value, or just to cement the idea that "No, there is no Batman here, now go do your thing."

It needed to feel and be bigger. Killing a hero like Batman needs to "feel" big, and it needs to "be" impactful.

Instead, Batman died in service to a plotline that was completely off screen, and that the player was given no emotional investment in, and no control over in the game world - defeating Raz.

That's not how you kill a hero like Batman.

[Iron Horse]

I grew up watching "Batman the Animated Series," and things like "Batman Beyond." The writers could have written something that was congruent. The plot could have been "Batman was on hiatus somewhere with the Justice League, and Gothom was left to the Bat Family." Instead, we were given......the game was fun, and I enjoyed it, but as far as the story goes, shrug my shoulders at it. It isn't mainstream Universe, and the writers knew that.

[Iron Horse]

I am just talking about the plot. I did enjoy the game. I did like the story being told over several nights. It gave the perspective of a "Campaign," and the passing of time. It was interesting, as far as story telling, in comparison to Arkham where Batman fights all his enemies over one really long night, or even Spiderman where a lot seemed to happen over a short period of time.

The movement was a little clunky and frustrating at times.

As far as superhero games and story telling goes, I am still a big fan of Freedom Force.

[dHeX ⛤]

Publicado originalmente por Lucifer ★✬:

Publicado originalmente por dHeX ⛤:

Titans Robin is Grayson, always has been, it's around his time with the Titans he moves on to become Nightwing.

witch titan show your talkin about tho? theres been alot. im talking about the one that turned into go *shudder*

other ones have had it as the 3ed robin and even the legit kid robin

All of them, but yes, even in Teen Titans Go, at one point in that show he is Nightwing.

[Lucifer ★✬]

Publicado originalmente por dHeX ⛤:

Publicado originalmente por Lucifer ★✬:

witch titan show your talkin about tho? theres been alot. im talking about the one that turned into go *shudder*

other ones have had it as the 3ed robin and even the legit kid robin

All of them, but yes, even in Teen Titans Go, at one point in that show he is Nightwing.

as i said before. robin wasnt 100% nightwing. he had traits of the other robins aswell. ]

even the makers of the show said they aimed to make him not just one type of robin