Gotham Knights

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Sargon Aelther May 7, 2023 @ 4:14pm
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Please release this game on GOG
Please remove Denuvo and release this game DRM-Free on GOG. Thank you.
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breadman May 7, 2023 @ 4:16pm 
no
Sargon Aelther May 7, 2023 @ 4:19pm 
Originally posted by breadman:
no
What difference does it make to you? All the Arkham games are on GOG. Arkham Knight launched with Denuvo too, but it was removed.
Djozar May 8, 2023 @ 5:56am 
Originally posted by Sargon Aelther:
Originally posted by breadman:
no
What difference does it make to you? All the Arkham games are on GOG. Arkham Knight launched with Denuvo too, but it was removed.
What does Denuvo have to do with anything? Or Arkham?
Sargon Aelther May 8, 2023 @ 6:45am 
Originally posted by Djozar:
Originally posted by Sargon Aelther:
What difference does it make to you? All the Arkham games are on GOG. Arkham Knight launched with Denuvo too, but it was removed.
What does Denuvo have to do with anything? Or Arkham?
GOG does not allow any kind of DRM on its store. So to publish it on there, they have to remove Denuvo.

I brought up Arkham Knight, because it was also launched on Steam with Denuvo, which was later removed and then Arkham Knight was published on GOG, so removal of this horrible performance-tanking DRM is not unheard of.

I want Gotham Knights to be released on GOG too.
The Machine May 8, 2023 @ 1:35pm 
"I want Gotham Knights to be released on GOG so I can easily Pirate the EXE and know it'll work, and I don't have to mess around with cracks!"

This is what you really mean. Using Denuvo as a scapegoat for you not having a job is disgusting.
Sargon Aelther May 8, 2023 @ 6:26pm 
Originally posted by Directors Cut:
"I want Gotham Knights to be released on GOG so I can easily Pirate the EXE and know it'll work, and I don't have to mess around with cracks!"

This is what you really mean. Using Denuvo as a scapegoat for you not having a job is disgusting.
Oh stop the nonsensical assumptions. I have more games than you on Steam alone, including all of the non-Denuvo Arkham games.
I also have over 2700 games on GOG, including everything WB has ever released there, so not only have I not pirated anything, I have bought it TWICE. https://www.gog.com/u/SargonAelther/games

You labelling GOG users as jobless pirates is what's disgusting.

Oh, by the way, Gotham Knights have already been cracked, so releasing on GOG DRM-Free is not gonna change anything at this point lol.
Last edited by Sargon Aelther; May 8, 2023 @ 6:54pm
The Machine May 9, 2023 @ 7:02am 
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Originally posted by Sargon Aelther:
Originally posted by Directors Cut:
"I want Gotham Knights to be released on GOG so I can easily Pirate the EXE and know it'll work, and I don't have to mess around with cracks!"

This is what you really mean. Using Denuvo as a scapegoat for you not having a job is disgusting.
Oh stop the nonsensical assumptions. I have more games than you on Steam alone, including all of the non-Denuvo Arkham games.
I also have over 2700 games on GOG, including everything WB has ever released there, so not only have I not pirated anything, I have bought it TWICE. https://www.gog.com/u/SargonAelther/games

You labelling GOG users as jobless pirates is what's disgusting.

Oh, by the way, Gotham Knights have already been cracked, so releasing on GOG DRM-Free is not gonna change anything at this point lol.
I have over 10,000 games combined both Physical and Digital. If you could only see the shelves behind me, so wanna try again with some petty Digital collection brag? GOG is used primarily by pirates, with a few exceptions to the rule. Anything else seems as crazy as someone shouting "The sun isn't hot! THE SUN Isn't hot HOW DARE YOU SAY THE SUN IS HOT!"
lukaself May 9, 2023 @ 7:24am 
Originally posted by Directors Cut:
Originally posted by Sargon Aelther:
Oh stop the nonsensical assumptions. I have more games than you on Steam alone, including all of the non-Denuvo Arkham games.
I also have over 2700 games on GOG, including everything WB has ever released there, so not only have I not pirated anything, I have bought it TWICE. https://www.gog.com/u/SargonAelther/games

You labelling GOG users as jobless pirates is what's disgusting.

Oh, by the way, Gotham Knights have already been cracked, so releasing on GOG DRM-Free is not gonna change anything at this point lol.
I have over 10,000 games combined both Physical and Digital. If you could only see the shelves behind me, so wanna try again with some petty Digital collection brag? GOG is used primarily by pirates, with a few exceptions to the rule. Anything else seems as crazy as someone shouting "The sun isn't hot! THE SUN Isn't hot HOW DARE YOU SAY THE SUN IS HOT!"
You're the one shouting nonsense right now, mate. There's no indication selling games on both GOG and Steam may have any negative impact on their sales, on the contrary. Especially as most games which are sold on GOG are also usually sold DRM-free on Steam as well anyway.

Selling on multiple platforms, including GOG, can increase a game's exposure and potential sales, as it allows the game to reach a wider audience of players with different platform preferences.
Last edited by lukaself; May 9, 2023 @ 7:28am
בתאניה May 10, 2023 @ 10:36pm 
Originally posted by Sargon Aelther:
Please remove Denuvo and release this game DRM-Free on GOG. Thank you.

Why?, it doesn't hinder game performance unless you have a dinosaur computer, all these anti -Denuvo posts are dumb, it's in every game, theya re already selling the game on multiple platforms so why would they bother with GoG? ..they might once the gravy train of sales stops and the game goes into bargain bin status.
lukaself May 11, 2023 @ 1:01am 
Originally posted by בתאניה:
Originally posted by Sargon Aelther:
Please remove Denuvo and release this game DRM-Free on GOG. Thank you.

Why?, it doesn't hinder game performance unless you have a dinosaur computer, all these anti -Denuvo posts are dumb, it's in every game, theya re already selling the game on multiple platforms so why would they bother with GoG? ..they might once the gravy train of sales stops and the game goes into bargain bin status.
Because the more platforms they sell on, the more sales they get. It seems common sense to me.

Especially as some people refuse to buy products with Denuvo, not because of the potential performance impact but because of the limits that are forced upon the customers, such as online requirements even in single player games, installation limits, encrypted executable and more. :clickbutton:
Last edited by lukaself; May 11, 2023 @ 1:02am
Where'sMySupersuit!! May 23, 2023 @ 4:04am 
I know this is old but Just sail the seas bro.
Sargon Aelther May 23, 2023 @ 10:10am 
Originally posted by Where'sMySupersuit!!:
I know this is old but Just sail the seas bro.
My backlog is in the thousands, so I can afford to wait, without having to resort to such measures. All the Arkham games are on GOG, so I'm hoping they'll release this over there too eventually.
Israly May 23, 2023 @ 1:20pm 
i mean....as pointless as it is to remove denuvo (i have yet to receive one single good argument of why it is bad, and yes i alredy know all the classic arguments that have no proof), devs arent gonna look at these forums, you wasted your time by asking here, try to contact them directly if you care enough.
Sargon Aelther May 23, 2023 @ 2:47pm 
Originally posted by Israly:
i mean....as pointless as it is to remove denuvo (i have yet to receive one single good argument of why it is bad, and yes i alredy know all the classic arguments that have no proof), devs arent gonna look at these forums, you wasted your time by asking here, try to contact them directly if you care enough.

There are quite a few articles from reputable sources, such as Ars Technika, stating performance improvements for games that had been cracked or had Denuvo officially patched out.

Gotham Knights is already available cracked, again widely available news, you don't have to go out of your way to find this information.

You can choose to dismiss these if you want, but this is nothing more than a pointless measure that works for a limited time at launch and then serves only to punish the paying customers. I have bought many other WB games that either never had Denuvo or after they've removed Denuvo, this case will be no different. I pay for what I want, not what I don't want.

I ask here, because SOMETIMES developers do respond on Steam. There's often no way to easily contact developers directly either. The only other option, really, is to submit a support ticket, but then it's a gamble whether the support person will bother passing the feedback on or not, after having closed the ticket.
Israly May 23, 2023 @ 5:59pm 
Originally posted by Sargon Aelther:
Originally posted by Israly:
i mean....as pointless as it is to remove denuvo (i have yet to receive one single good argument of why it is bad, and yes i alredy know all the classic arguments that have no proof), devs arent gonna look at these forums, you wasted your time by asking here, try to contact them directly if you care enough.

There are quite a few articles from reputable sources, such as Ars Technika, stating performance improvements for games that had been cracked or had Denuvo officially patched out.

Gotham Knights is already available cracked, again widely available news, you don't have to go out of your way to find this information.

You can choose to dismiss these if you want, but this is nothing more than a pointless measure that works for a limited time at launch and then serves only to punish the paying customers. I have bought many other WB games that either never had Denuvo or after they've removed Denuvo, this case will be no different. I pay for what I want, not what I don't want.

I ask here, because SOMETIMES developers do respond on Steam. There's often no way to easily contact developers directly either. The only other option, really, is to submit a support ticket, but then it's a gamble whether the support person will bother passing the feedback on or not, after having closed the ticket.
Denuvo by itself does not hurt performance there are articles which show this as well, however a bad implementation of denuvo can hurt the performance, in which case the game probably is plagued by many other optimization issues, it all depends on how devs make the implementation.
Honestly idc much about denuvo either way, removed or not, it doesnt affect me really.
i do wish you luck on getting it removed tho, hopefully you ll have some luck and someone who cares enough to remove it reads this!
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