Patreon only exclusive content

[iiCryduringsex]

Is it true? Say it isn't so. The game costs $30. Tell me that the content is going to be added to the steam version some day.

[Giladria]

The patreon gets all updates as they are published. Steam only gets stable builds so updates are much larger and generally always work. At least, that's my understanding of it. Patreon also has more support for the game development (more and larger donation options) where Steam is more like pre-purchasing the game and getting sneak peaks as content is released. It's all to support the game.

[Something completely different]

But you do get all content on Steam, you just get it later.

[Safyre]

I actually came here to ask this very question. I've seen reviews that make both counter claims (you DO NOT get the Patreon content because it's exclusive; and you DO get the Patreon content, just at a later date).

At this point, Steam early access seems like it's becoming more and more of a Patreon one-time payment, with devs keeping most of the info and content exclusive and trickling it out to the folks here. I think Steam needs to reexamine their policy surrounding how this all works, because it seems like a lot of people are essentially paying for unfinished games and never ending up with the completed versions.

It would be really nice if the devs of this game could chime in and let us know if the Steam version will actually get all of the content!

[Grat Dalton]

Originally posted by iiCryduringsex:

Is it true? Say it isn't so. The game costs $30.

True

Originally posted by iiCryduringsex:

Tell me that the content is going to be added to the steam version some day.

Quick search I found this.

June 15 steam Hotfix

June 14 steam game update

March 11 steam game patch

March 1 steam game patch
- I'll let you decided if that is enough content on steam version.

[iiCryduringsex]

Originally posted by Grat Dalton:

Originally posted by iiCryduringsex:

Is it true? Say it isn't so. The game costs $30.

True

Originally posted by iiCryduringsex:

Tell me that the content is going to be added to the steam version some day.

Quick search I found this.

June 15 steam Hotfix

June 14 steam game update

March 11 steam game patch

March 1 steam game patch
- I'll let you decided if that is enough content on steam version.

I didn't mean content as in updates. I meant it as hopefully the "patreon exclusive content" won't be only patron exclusive one day. Hopefully it will available to everyone who has purchased the game. Maybe when the game is complete.

[Morpheuskibbe]

Originally posted by RunStopRestore:

I actually came here to ask this very question. I've seen reviews that make both counter claims (you DO NOT get the Patreon content because it's exclusive; and you DO get the Patreon content, just at a later date).

At this point, Steam early access seems like it's becoming more and more of a Patreon one-time payment, with devs keeping most of the info and content exclusive and trickling it out to the folks here. I think Steam needs to reexamine their policy surrounding how this all works, because it seems like a lot of people are essentially paying for unfinished games and never ending up with the completed versions.

It would be really nice if the devs of this game could chime in and let us know if the Steam version will actually get all of the content!

:happyquill::p2cube:

According to their roadmap
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1EGL7Z5N6SXVJDNxl8BVEERKETws3AM3lMtcXUQKFg2M/edit#gid=0

it says

"This Roadmap is for the PLAYTEST builds of the game only (Patreon & SubscribeStar). All systems will come to Steam builds of the game once bugfixed and relatively stable (regular update at least once every 3 months)."

So im reading this as, steam gets everything once it works, and patreon gets it as they make it so sooner but may be buggier.

[iiCryduringsex]

Originally posted by Morpheuskibbe:

Originally posted by RunStopRestore:

I actually came here to ask this very question. I've seen reviews that make both counter claims (you DO NOT get the Patreon content because it's exclusive; and you DO get the Patreon content, just at a later date).

At this point, Steam early access seems like it's becoming more and more of a Patreon one-time payment, with devs keeping most of the info and content exclusive and trickling it out to the folks here. I think Steam needs to reexamine their policy surrounding how this all works, because it seems like a lot of people are essentially paying for unfinished games and never ending up with the completed versions.

It would be really nice if the devs of this game could chime in and let us know if the Steam version will actually get all of the content!

:happyquill:

According to their roadmap
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1EGL7Z5N6SXVJDNxl8BVEERKETws3AM3lMtcXUQKFg2M/edit#gid=0

it says

"This Roadmap is for the PLAYTEST builds of the game only (Patreon & SubscribeStar). All systems will come to Steam builds of the game once bugfixed and relatively stable (regular update at least once every 3 months)."

So im reading this as, steam gets everything once it works, and patreon gets it as they make it so sooner but may be buggier.

You are an absolute scholar.

[Linuxydable]

As a professional game developer, I see that like an scam and disrespect for players.

Imagine paying an Early Access game on Steam but you cannot help the development of the game because the developer make an Patreon/SubscribeStar with an close price of the game without keeping the Steam version up to date.

If the devs want an crowdfounding, these need to make an neutral crowdfounding.
By example, making some cosmetics for the supporters.
But not an more advanced version....

It's disrespect the Players and Valve.

This game violate the Steamworks contract.

[JadeWing]

Originally posted by Linuxydable:

If the devs want an crowdfounding, these need to make an neutral crowdfounding.
By example, making some cosmetics for the supporters.

Did you forget to read the thread? The only Patreon-exclusive content is cosmetic -- as in, exactly the type of thing you just suggested. Specifically, if I recall correctly, it's a whopping two penises we don't have access to on Steam.

While they get access to updates before we do, they also have to pay $10 a month for that slightly-earlier access to tiny updates that don't actually add a significant portion of content with each drip, while we get everything they do in larger chunks every three months. Given that it's in such early development that we need to start new files with every update, the fact that we get everything in a larger chunk that we can actually play with rather than small morsels is a benefit in my eyes.

Besides, we paid $30 once for the game and every update it will ever have. Do the math: on Patreon, that would buy someone three months of content.

[Linuxydable]

Releasing an more recent version than the Steam version violate the Steam Direct contract.
Abusing Steam early access system will result this game as removed from Steam.

[JadeWing]

Originally posted by Linuxydable:

Releasing an more recent version than the Steam version violate the Steam Direct contract.

Would you like to provide the portion of the contract that states this?

[Linuxydable]

It's under NDA.
I cannot say anything about that without destroying my contract.

But have an little part of the contract here : https://partner.steamgames.com/steamdirect/

[JadeWing]

How convenient.

[NYFan64]

I've always wondered why we steam buyers can't at least keep up to date with updates to how they are doing and what they changed. There is little to no info on the wiki and any readable updates are behind paywalls.

[Linuxydable]

Originally posted by CopperHead:

How convenient.

It's not convenient, it's under NDA.
Contact Valve and will get the same answer.