new bardge mechanics are bad

[Zastaver]

so with the old bardge mechanics, it was something that you could set up and realy not have to worry all to much about it, i was hopeing with direct control of barges it would make logistics more fun, but honestly its turned it into a chore, not being able to use stockpile islands to actualy have centeralised points of supply has made the game a utter nightmare, this is not how logistics should be done, as much as i hate to say it, the old system is better, althow a hybrid of both would probably work the best, where automated bardges ferry supplys, and you have manual control over them for resupply dutys in a combat zone so they dont just blitz into a destroyer, also W and S for zooming gimble camera is also broken.

[godfather]

sad to see the game go this way. supply is now more or less instant. and the idea that you can only discard items from the carrier overboard(lose those items if removed) is restrictive and a waste.. i think air units for supply should have been added. between the new supply system. and the new price drop for units in the game. i feel the game has become to easy. and less rewarding. you can just now steam roll early in game. a level of challenge has been removed just my opinion tho. most people wanted these things in the game to make it easier. and less complex for supplies. i like your idea that a hybrid of both systems would probably work better idea.

[Mandalore]

I have given up.

The dev's say they are " listening ", yet the logical they use to implement what " they think " they hear is astounding.

In Australia, we say " ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ Useless "

[OrangeGills]

I'm a fan of the new barge system, what exactly don't you like about it? It's so much more direct to be able to capture an island and instantly supply from it with a barge you ordered to be on hand, as opposed to waiting for a barge to come over, grab stuff, bring it to a warehouse, then finally back to you.

[Zastaver]

Originally posted by OrangeGills:

I'm a fan of the new barge system, what exactly don't you like about it? It's so much more direct to be able to capture an island and instantly supply from it with a barge you ordered to be on hand, as opposed to waiting for a barge to come over, grab stuff, bring it to a warehouse, then finally back to you.

a hybrid system would have been better, but also the fact that you cant put things back into storage is also a problem, have had 2 MP games ruined because of this feature and griefers. you should still have the old automated system, and the manual operations system which is more efficant should be AVALABLE for those who wish to invest the micro in useing it.

[godfather]

Originally posted by OrangeGills:

I'm a fan of the new barge system, what exactly don't you like about it? It's so much more direct to be able to capture an island and instantly supply from it with a barge you ordered to be on hand, as opposed to waiting for a barge to come over, grab stuff, bring it to a warehouse, then finally back to you.

you could have a barge go right to the carrier. and not a wear-house before the update.

[Zastaver]

i was just about to add that, the reasion people think the old system is bad is they dident bother to effing learn how to use it, therefore they dident understand it, therefore it was broke. never has a problem with it when i sat down and figured out how to use it,

[godfather]

Originally posted by Zastaver:

i was just about to add that, the reasion people think the old system is bad is they dident bother to effing learn how to use it, therefore they dident understand it, therefore it was broke. never has a problem with it when i sat down and figured out how to use it,

this is the way most games are now. people want easy and instant results. Another game sacrificed to the masses.

[Zastaver]

the funny thing is they HAD the features they wanted, they just never learned to use them, you can do fine with a single barge and just ordering to the carrier, like now, before it was even more automated and you could put stuff BACK in stock if you dident need it.

[godfather]

Originally posted by Zastaver:

the funny thing is they HAD the features they wanted, they just never learned to use them, you can do fine with a single barge and just ordering to the carrier, like now, before it was even more automated and you could put stuff BACK in stock if you dident need it.

great points i feel the same about the game. people never even used the where-house. or simply just sail to a barge to meet up for resupply. bombing islands along the way lol. i found the stockpile and the ability to unload let you change tactics. now if you got 120 ,missiles but are full on a your carrier and want bombs..to bad i am now stuck with missiles. also you could stockpile at port and just simply sail back to port and resupply. few captains ever took advantage of this. and just called the system broken.

[Boaxes]

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[Nomad]

Originally posted by OrangeGills:

I'm a fan of the new barge system, what exactly don't you like about it? It's so much more direct to be able to capture an island and instantly supply from it with a barge you ordered to be on hand, as opposed to waiting for a barge to come over, grab stuff, bring it to a warehouse, then finally back to you.

The thing is, you could do this already. I was doing this on my last save game. You could completely ignore stockpiles and put a barge directly on a factory island to deliver things to you. But now it takes several extra steps to make it work. The function isn't new, but it's become more cumbersome, along with the total loss of the old way which was still better in some situations.

[b00mer64]

The old system got unwieldy the more islands and barges you had. I was always forced to wait while my barges loaded and came to my carrier. This new system requires constant micromanagement. It's another chore, especially single player. I agree with the OP, it was a big step in the wrong direction. I wish we had a hybrid option. Automated barges that would restock your warehouse but with the ability for manual control that could deliver armaments to the carrier from islands directly.

[Justin]

No problems with the barge system here. The old system was more automatic, but also required precise timing in order to get items to the carrier.

At least now operating barges manually doesn't waste time by having barges move halfway across the map to meet you, then realize something was wrong with the number of items requisitioned, and then turn around and go home with items it could have delivered.

New system isn't perfect, but it fixes more problems than it introduces.

[godfather]

Originally posted by Justin:

No problems with the barge system here. The old system was more automatic, but also required precise timing in order to get items to the carrier.

At least now operating barges manually doesn't waste time by having barges move halfway across the map to meet you, then realize something was wrong with the number of items requisitioned, and then turn around and go home with items it could have delivered.

New system isn't perfect, but it fixes more problems than it introduces.

i think you make some good points. i find the new update has made the game far to easy. units are so cheap now that you are steaming rolling before you get out of the early game. most the challenge has been taken out of the game. this game use to be much harder. even the landings in high winds and ruff seas have been made much easier. still play the game out of love. no matter what updates come out :)

[Zastaver]

to be honest i dont feel like it fixes more than it introduces, i think its a little south of 50%, and also judgeing by the ammount of people who still think the old system is how it works, was not effectavely communicated.