Dragons..... not very impressive

[The Kaiser]

I think they need a buff in their armor. They deal decent enough damage, but they're not exactly durable. I never use the artifact Dragon Slayer which increases damage to them. Why bother? They fall just as easily as anything else.

[Dancing Dragon Games]

They've been buffed for 1.02 in their armor growth and damage scaling of their attacks

[Chataboutgames]

Honestly I'm okay with dragons not having crazy stats, they have a ton going for them already. Neat to see them as a specific type of squad rather than just the super squad.

[Raymond]

they are meant to be that way. Pretty much beafy beasts that can take a few hits, more firepower than a single fire mage, cost less than 2 full mages in lds and cost you no material to upgrade. When you reach the point where material and lds no longer an issue you dump them on Beatrix and turn her into an apache helicopter.

[Evillevi]

Originally posted by Dancing Dragon Games:

They've been buffed for 1.02 in their armor growth and damage scaling of their attacks

The more important question is if they've been buff to be more huggable. I'll legit keep one just for the cuteness if they were a rolly polly with a nice warm belly.

Or maybe a dragon in a fluffy parka to keep warm :V

[Bishop]

The biggest problem with dragons is that even after full upgrade they are still much worse than 2 proper mage units. And squad must use 3 of them to get flying which is not really worth it most of the time. I guess they are okay mid game to fill up squads that don't have enough space for two units.

Personally I use 3 of them in Abigail squad: her default one, Azure and legendary mercenary. They are not great but kinda fit her thematically so whatever.

[FishyFin]

As for now they're the only flying option so even if they're not the best in term of power, there's something only dragon can do.
Sometime I would need a unit to cross some impassable terrain. Aside from that, they have enough fire power and durability to not feel useless.

[Malagon]

They're fine. They eventually morph into Dragon Riders which are OP damage dealers and can move anywhere on the map like a Queen in Chess.

[demilich2005]

My only problem with the dragons is that each one was supposed to be different in terms of what they do. Silver was supposed to be the tank, Red the damage dealer and Blue the middle ground. Even with them all on same affinity the stats are almost identical. Silver has same armor, Damage and etc as the others. This leaves only the differences of fire, lightning and ice breath's and the status effects they cause between them. In terms of mobility no other units can fly. I usually have 2 squads of these endgame (one with Beatrix). Individually they are stronger than a single mage/sorc but taking up 2 unit slots hurts them a bit, as 2 mages/sorcs will always out-damage a single D-rider.

[Zalugar]

Originally posted by Malagon:

They're fine. They eventually morph into Dragon Riders which are OP damage dealers and can move anywhere on the map like a Queen in Chess.

I mean for the effort it takes to get one up there and how rare they are to obtain, they are just a little weak, and this is coming from a guy who uses proof of merits on every dragon. Plus turning them into a dragon rider doesn't give them any edge in actual combat; it just changes their movement to flying.

During the rare instances they appear as enemies, I typically don't consider them much of a threat. Like I consider a 1 swordmaster plus 2-3swordfighter squad or 5 assassin squad much more dangerous.
That said I do think their 15 capacity cost represents how strong they are pretty well — worth more than most single units but worth less than 2.

I never could decide what the best dragon type is, though. The tech tree implies some of them have status effects breaths but I'm not sure I've ever seen it proc.

[farhorizon]

I think they could scale a little more late game, but they're great mid game as less squishy and less resource intensive "magical" attackers.

Sounds like the scaling is addressed in next patch too!

[Raymond]

Originally posted by Malagon:

They're fine. They eventually morph into Dragon Riders which are OP damage dealers and can move anywhere on the map like a Queen in Chess.

there is no difference between a dragon rider and a regular adult dragon combat performance wise. The flying ability is the only difference.

[Raymond]

Originally posted by Zalugar:

I mean for the effort it takes to get one up there and how rare they are to obtain, they are just a little weak, and this is coming from a guy who uses proof of merits on every dragon. Plus turning them into a dragon rider doesn't give them any edge in actual combat; it just changes their movement to flying.

They are not rare, you find them in every bazaar, and they can get to tier 3 with little investment.

[Zalugar]

Originally posted by YariMurai:

They are not rare, you find them in every bazaar, and they can get to tier 3 with little investment.

In other words you can only get 1 per bazaar. If you don't have the money for one or wish to use it elsewhere for a rarer deal, that's one dragon you'll have to postpone getting and raising. That makes them rare. On top of that you're likely going to be stuck with whatever affinity it comes with unless you get some lucky scrolls until late game. They can appear in the market allegedly but after doing a ton of save scumming to try to see it and two runs later, I still haven't.

As for their investment, it's 2000cp to get baby dragon to Dragon, 2000cp + stats to get to a colored dragon, then another 3000cp to get to flying dragon + 4500cp for proof of merit. Plus if they don't have stats to upgrade right away due to poor affinity luck, that's wasted cp.
An apprentice takes 3000 to get to mage + 4500 for proof of merit.
Any other unit takes 500 + 3000 + 4500.
So dragons need 11,500cp to reach their full potential, mages need 7500, and normal units need 8000 without the tech upgrades (7500 or 7750 with certain techs). Not to mention unlike other recruits, they can't start as loyal even with tech.

Little investment compared to what? They need at least 35% more investment than other units.

[Steelfleece]

Originally posted by Zalugar:

Originally posted by YariMurai:

They are not rare, you find them in every bazaar, and they can get to tier 3 with little investment.

In other words you can only get 1 per bazaar. If you don't have the money for one or wish to use it elsewhere for a rarer deal, that's one dragon you'll have to postpone getting and raising. That makes them rare. On top of that you're likely going to be stuck with whatever affinity it comes with unless you get some lucky scrolls until late game. They can appear in the market allegedly but after doing a ton of save scumming to try to see it and two runs later, I still haven't.

As for their investment, it's 2000cp to get baby dragon to Dragon, 2000cp + stats to get to a colored dragon, then another 3000cp to get to flying dragon + 4500cp for proof of merit. Plus if they don't have stats to upgrade right away due to poor affinity luck, that's wasted cp.
An apprentice takes 3000 to get to mage + 4500 for proof of merit.
Any other unit takes 500 + 3000 + 4500.
So dragons need 11,500cp to reach their full potential, mages need 7500, and normal units need 8000 without the tech upgrades (7500 or 7750 with certain techs). Not to mention unlike other recruits, they can't start as loyal even with tech.

Little investment compared to what? They need at least 35% more investment than other units.

No resource costs is my guess. Plus, lots of units waste CP by not having the stats to promote immediately if we're being honest. There's also that tech that boosts dragons' CP gains, cuts into it a little.

[Raymond]

Originally posted by Zalugar:

Originally posted by YariMurai:

They are not rare, you find them in every bazaar, and they can get to tier 3 with little investment.

In other words you can only get 1 per bazaar. If you don't have the money for one or wish to use it elsewhere for a rarer deal, that's one dragon you'll have to postpone getting and raising. That makes them rare. On top of that you're likely going to be stuck with whatever affinity it comes with unless you get some lucky scrolls until late game. They can appear in the market allegedly but after doing a ton of save scumming to try to see it and two runs later, I still haven't.

As for their investment, it's 2000cp to get baby dragon to Dragon, 2000cp + stats to get to a colored dragon, then another 3000cp to get to flying dragon + 4500cp for proof of merit. Plus if they don't have stats to upgrade right away due to poor affinity luck, that's wasted cp.
An apprentice takes 3000 to get to mage + 4500 for proof of merit.
Any other unit takes 500 + 3000 + 4500.
So dragons need 11,500cp to reach their full potential, mages need 7500, and normal units need 8000 without the tech upgrades (7500 or 7750 with certain techs). Not to mention unlike other recruits, they can't start as loyal even with tech.

Little investment compared to what? They need at least 35% more investment than other units.

A dragon can advance to using any of the 3 major stat, str, skl, and mag, which no other units does. Your dragons can easily advance to tier 3 if they are any elements that isn't earth and light, you are very unlikely to get stuck with an earth dragon. In the odd case that you do, just give the earth dragon the stat boosters item like the magic mint for a quick tier 3. The game also give you 4 affinity scrolls by stage 12 (1 dark, 2 water and 1 fire). The water scrolls alone should guarantee you 2 t3 fire dragons. And don't tell me you wanna hoard those water scrolls. Water affinity is the second most common affinity in the game and using them for quick fire dragons are their only real use.