What do the choices at very start of game effect?

[Hathur]

During the "character creation" stage at the start, where it asks you questions about the character, what do these choices effect? I.e. if I choose to a "General" does that make my character a warrior type class vs a "Faithful" character being a healer / support type class? Does it change the story somehow?

[Dancing Dragon Games]

Hello,

It affects your protagonist's stat growths throughout the game, unless it's a "leadership" style answer, then it's just a one time +1.

[efd731]

Originally posted by Dancing Dragon Games:

Hello,

It affects your protagonist's stat growths throughout the game, unless it's a "leadership" style answer, then it's just a one time +1.

hey, so sorry to call ya back to this, but can you say which choices affect which stats directly??

or just which choices are best for a magic user? much appreciated

[Dancing Dragon Games]

I'd rather leave it up to the players to discover these things organically, or just make their own guides :)

[efd731]

Originally posted by Dancing Dragon Games:

I'd rather leave it up to the players to discover these things organically, or just make their own guides :)

well.....fair enough i guess, but i can't even get a "this choice=magic growth" out of you?

[Dancing Dragon Games]

The questions are fairly intuitive, and if not, they're designed to be a little subjective. Not going to make or break you :)

[efd731]

Originally posted by Dancing Dragon Games:

The questions are fairly intuitive, and if not, they're designed to be a little subjective. Not going to make or break you :)

okay, well i'll give it a shot

[Godwin]

Hmm, yes I was also wondering about this..

[Kyutaru]

Originally posted by Godwin:

Hmm, yes I was also wondering about this..

It's similar to the system in other SRPGs like Langrisser's goddess questions.

[Godwin]

No experience with those, so that doesn't help, but thanks :)

[Morgan]

Originally posted by Kyutaru:

Originally posted by Godwin:

Hmm, yes I was also wondering about this..

It's similar to the system in other SRPGs like Langrisser's goddess questions.

I always needed a guide for Langrisser. Maybe they were intuitive in the original Japanese, but not so much the English translation.

[azuarc]

never played Langrisser, but Ogre Battle has the same thing with the sage asking questions related to your initial tarot cards. Don't think too hard about them. At least in OB they determined what kinds of attacks your MC used.

[Antiga]

Originally posted by Dancing Dragon Games:

I'd rather leave it up to the players to discover these things organically, or just make their own guides :)

Why not do both? Allow those who wish to discover it for themselves, to discover it for themselves. And allow those who almost literally fall over such a mechanic, to get the information they desire.

I can tell you one thing, I launched this game once, answered these questions, and from that moment on I had no rest in my mind. I was waiting for cutscenes to end so I could go look at my stats and make a new character, answer differently, and compare. Before I got there, as cutscenes kept going a bit too long, I started to google answers, just to find you saying you would prefer not to answer.

It may be difficult to comprehend but such a mechanic will absolutely and utterly frustrate those with OCD + Min/Max tendencies. Knowing these anwers can affect growth is of a HUGE impact, while here you make it seem it's not at all important.

It is THE MOST important, for those with these OCD Min/Max tendencies. And there are a lot, especially in this genre.

I ended up quitting the game during these cutscenes, not wanting to deal with this at that moment. Haven't launched the game again since...


This is just to show you how much impact something so seemingly unimportant can have.

[ekidhardt]

So figure it out yourself! Jeez, the dev's are here to spoon feed you info each time you throw a tantrum.

Make some characters, watch the stat development and you'll find out your answer.


Meanwhile---this is how the Ultima series started--a good throwback on decisions when creating a character

[Antiga]

Originally posted by ekidhardt:

So figure it out yourself! Jeez, the dev's are here to spoon feed you info each time you throw a tantrum.

Make some characters, watch the stat development and you'll find out your answer.


Meanwhile---this is how the Ultima series started--a good throwback on decisions when creating a character

Uninformed decisions might as well be RNG then.
You're asking people to spend hours of time on a game they don't know just to be able to create the character they might hopefully like. Or just, make decisions based on what tiny bit of information available (Faithless, Poverty, Intolerance? It's 2022.. 90% of people picked Intolerance just because.) in a context you can hardly understand yet, due to lack of knowledge of the world and lore, game mechanics, which stats actually exist... etc.

It really isn't a strange thing to have such information readily available. The resistance you show here is much more of a tantrum.

[Godwin]

Originally posted by ekidhardt:

So figure it out yourself!

Make some characters, watch the stat development and you'll find out your answer.

Meanwhile---this is how the Ultima series started--a good throwback on decisions when creating a character

Loved Ultima (you can probably tell!), but nowadays I just don't have the time to figure that all out. Also.. the questions in Ultima DID show what Virtues you chose between and they immediately showed what the result was (character class).

This game makes it affect stat growth? When am I going to notice that? By level 5? That's a HECK of a lot more time investment to figure it out.

Will it matter what choices I make as in that it will be the difference between finishing the game and not being able to win? Highly probably not.

Still, I would have liked to see the stat consequences ingame here for sure. Or maybe a community guide otherwise. OR, they should have gone the RP route and make it determine class OR make it pure flavor RP background without any stat effect at all. Imo.