Proper use of Dragons?

[Lampros]

What is the most optimal way to use them now - given that they take two tiles but are weaker than 2 units overall?

For instance, is it best to use them in a 3-Dragon squad, so you have 6-unit squad overall and flying? Or just sprinkle them in singles per squad and use them as tanky mages?

[Lucavi]

They are reserved for flying squads for fast access to distant shops/locations or to grab flying-only chests. That said, I usually have one powerful dragon Hit Squad with 3 dragons, 2 Paladins and a healer. Its generally strong enough to blow anything up, and defensive enough to hold important chokes.

[Lampros]

Originally posted by Lucavi:

They are reserved for flying squads for fast access to distant shops/locations or to grab flying-only chests. That said, I usually have one powerful dragon Hit Squad with 3 dragons, 2 Paladins and a healer. Its generally strong enough to blow anything up, and defensive enough to hold important chokes.

Why 2 Paladins? Assuming the Dragons are at the front, I understand you'd want a Paladin for damage reduction to the healer, But wouldn't the extra back slot be better used on a damage dealer? That's how I run flying Dragon squads.

[Vambran]

Aside from ability. They take up 15 CAP and use 2 Spaces. Now , 2 Loyal Single Space Units take up 8 Cap each for a total of 16 CAP.

So you save about 1 CAP over the most loyal units in the game , besides hero units with bonds.

[Jackfuego226]

Originally posted by Lampros:

Originally posted by Lucavi:

They are reserved for flying squads for fast access to distant shops/locations or to grab flying-only chests. That said, I usually have one powerful dragon Hit Squad with 3 dragons, 2 Paladins and a healer. Its generally strong enough to blow anything up, and defensive enough to hold important chokes.

Why 2 Paladins? Assuming the Dragons are at the front, I understand you'd want a Paladin for damage reduction to the healer, But wouldn't the extra back slot be better used on a damage dealer? That's how I run flying Dragon squads.

I run my dragon squads differently. Paladins in the front to guard the squishier dragons and a healer to keep the squad alive.

[The Jason Order]

Originally posted by Vambran:

Aside from ability. They take up 15 CAP and use 2 Spaces. Now , 2 Loyal Single Space Units take up 8 Cap each for a total of 16 CAP.

So you save about 1 CAP over the most loyal units in the game , besides hero units with bonds.

Not quite since there's a big penalty cost for units over 5,6,7,8. So it's actually much cheaper to have a single dragon over 2 units.

Dragons fill the wierd gap between LDR tiers allowing more units. Ideally, every squad should be 9 classes, but until you reach that point there's always the gap when you can't quite add a full other class but you still have space so you can essentially "upgrade" one of your existing to a dragon.

I really like 2 Silver Dragon + 1 Paladin up front with 2 healers and 1 Fire Dragon in the back.
Beatrix is also strong as a flying unit, especially if you can recruit the unique Dragon Rider super early in the game.

[Jackfuego226]

Originally posted by The Jason Order:

Originally posted by Vambran:

Aside from ability. They take up 15 CAP and use 2 Spaces. Now , 2 Loyal Single Space Units take up 8 Cap each for a total of 16 CAP.

So you save about 1 CAP over the most loyal units in the game , besides hero units with bonds.

especially if you can recruit the unique Dragon Rider super early in the game.

Excuse me?

[Simple Kind of Man]

dragons are great! dont ignore them cuz they got a small nerf

[The Jason Order]

Originally posted by Jackfuego226:

Originally posted by The Jason Order:

especially if you can recruit the unique Dragon Rider super early in the game.

Excuse me?

There are unique mercenaries (with quotes instead of class information). One of them is a Dragon Rider, and becase you can recruit unique mercs really early on from Bazaars you can get them very very early.

[Jackfuego226]

Originally posted by The Jason Order:

Originally posted by Jackfuego226:

Excuse me?

There are unique mercenaries (with quotes instead of class information). One of them is a Dragon Rider, and becase you can recruit unique mercs really early on from Bazaars you can get them very very early.

I knew about the unique mercs, i didn't realize you could get a dragon rider real early in the game, though.

[RyanEX2000]

Originally posted by Jackfuego226:

Originally posted by The Jason Order:

There are unique mercenaries (with quotes instead of class information). One of them is a Dragon Rider, and becase you can recruit unique mercs really early on from Bazaars you can get them very very early.

I knew about the unique mercs, i didn't realize you could get a dragon rider real early in the game, though.

If you're REALLY lucky. But if you find him early on it's unlikely you'll have the 10k to splurge on him.

[Isharis]

Originally posted by RyanEX2000:

Originally posted by Jackfuego226:

I knew about the unique mercs, i didn't realize you could get a dragon rider real early in the game, though.

If you're REALLY lucky. But if you find him early on it's unlikely you'll have the 10k to splurge on him.

I got her? on my list in like, chapter 4 or 5 or so. The one right after Stefan. She's more like 13k or so if i recall and I just didn't have the coins. I had quite a bit saved up, but even if I sold all my artifacts I just couldn't do it. Much regrets.

[Lampros]

Originally posted by Jackfuego226:

I run my dragon squads differently. Paladins in the front to guard the squishier dragons and a healer to keep the squad alive.

Hmm, I mainly use Ice Dragon Riders, and they all get Beacon, so there is no need to baby-sit them. As I see it, Dragons are not cost-efficient, unless you get them to BOTH tank AND damage, because they cost 2 slots. So it's natural that they ought to do the work of 2 units.

[Jackfuego226]

Originally posted by Lampros:

Originally posted by Jackfuego226:

I run my dragon squads differently. Paladins in the front to guard the squishier dragons and a healer to keep the squad alive.

Hmm, I mainly use Ice Dragon Riders, and they all get Beacon, so there is no need to baby-sit them. As I see it, Dragons are not cost-efficient, unless you get them to BOTH tank AND damage, because they cost 2 slots. So it's natural that they ought to do the work of 2 units.

That may work for silver dragons, but for blue and especially red dragons, they just don't have the defenses to survive like that.

[Lampros]

Originally posted by Jackfuego226:

That may work for silver dragons, but for blue and especially red dragons, they just don't have the defenses to survive like that.

I agree regarding Red Dragons; so I don't use them. But Blue Dragons also seem to work as tank/DPS - at least at Captain difficulty.

[bighotpuff]

Dragons arent for tanking and I use tanks up front with dragons in last line. Dragons are second best after cannons imo. I pair dragons with cannons and tanks regularly with 1 healer. Ideally Id like a light or fire mage with a dragon and 2 cannons, 2 tanks and a healer. Aoe damagers are king over high individual damagers.