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Lain2rizzy Aug 2, 2022 @ 4:43am
Impossible solitaire
Is there a way to make the solitaire always be possible? My first one today only had a few possible moves before nothing could be done. Worried that since it's just RNG, one day I could get one where all are unwinnable.
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mason11987 Aug 2, 2022 @ 7:59am 
If they properly implemented solitaire 80% of games are winnable. Which means the odds of you getting three impossible to win games in a row is pretty slim, but it will eventually happen.
Considera Core Aug 2, 2022 @ 11:16am 
I do nothing to the game to make it impossible to win. I am more than welcome to make my solitaire code publicly available. Maybe I am doing something wrong, not sure. This is my first time making Solitaire from scratch so haha
Truth_X_ile Aug 2, 2022 @ 12:30pm 
My first 3 attempts at Solitaire had me only able to maybe place around 5-8 movements, then impossible to make any other moves, even trying to practice, out of 20 games, I can place around 10-15 movements, then I had 1 extremely rare 4 movements then nothing else to do, so my first initial 3 attempts were the most unlucky but practicing had better chance of doing anything

Have yet to complete one at all even when practicing
Considera Core Aug 2, 2022 @ 12:35pm 
Maybe I'll do one card draw instead of three cards for solitaire. That may help.
Lain2rizzy Aug 2, 2022 @ 12:37pm 
Originally posted by CryptoGrounds:
Maybe I'll do one card draw instead of three cards for solitaire. That may help.
This or Free Cell would be greatly appreciated :) Ty for responses, loving the game!
Considera Core Aug 2, 2022 @ 12:56pm 
Thank you!
CawsMeCal Aug 2, 2022 @ 1:37pm 
Yeah I haven't been able to win yet over two days. I'm sure some of them were just misplay, but I feel like I should be able to have eventually done it by now. I never really played Solitaire but I knew how to outside of thinking you could move piles to empty piles as well.
Poggey Aug 2, 2022 @ 1:41pm 
The issue is the way you draw the cards. Unless I am doing something wrong, I can only use one card out of the 3 that gets drawn. So if the card you need is buried under the top card you draw, you cant use it unless you can get rid of the top card. This effectively turns the deck into 21 possible cards into 7 cards that you can maybe use. In real solitaire, you are able to cycle through each card at a time.
CawsMeCal Aug 2, 2022 @ 1:50pm 
Just got black 8, red 9, black 9, black 7, black king, black king, red 2. Put the b8 on r9... another black 8 under it. Cycled cards cannot be played anywhere. GG.
Truth_X_ile Aug 2, 2022 @ 1:51pm 
Originally posted by KawsMeCal:
Yeah I haven't been able to win yet over two days. I'm sure some of them were just misplay, but I feel like I should be able to have eventually done it by now. I never really played Solitaire but I knew how to outside of thinking you could move piles to empty piles as well.

Only Kings can move to empty spots in the original game of Solitaire, no other cards can be placed there

Originally posted by Poggey:
The issue is the way you draw the cards. Unless I am doing something wrong, I can only use one card out of the 3 that gets drawn. So if the card you need is buried under the top card you draw, you cant use it unless you can get rid of the top card. This effectively turns the deck into 21 possible cards into 7 cards that you can maybe use. In real solitaire, you are able to cycle through each card at a time.

Both versions of Solitaire exist, everyone knows 1 draw, 3 draw is a bit more advanced and more difficult because of that reason, you only able to use the card at the bottom of the draw stack, you can only use the second card if you use the first one

If making these by scratch, I'd say stick to Solitaire for now, if you want to expand on more fun game modes, surely the community would help with ideas for sure, for me, I love Sudoku
boredomkills30 Aug 2, 2022 @ 1:59pm 
I'd consider myself a reasonably seasoned draw 3 solitaire player and today's high score was a whopping 51 points. That was like 2 cards to the foundation and a few from the draw pile.
CawsMeCal Aug 2, 2022 @ 2:02pm 
Originally posted by Truth_X_ile:
Originally posted by KawsMeCal:
Yeah I haven't been able to win yet over two days. I'm sure some of them were just misplay, but I feel like I should be able to have eventually done it by now. I never really played Solitaire but I knew how to outside of thinking you could move piles to empty piles as well.

Only Kings can move to empty spots in the original game of Solitaire, no other cards can be placed there

Originally posted by Poggey:
The issue is the way you draw the cards. Unless I am doing something wrong, I can only use one card out of the 3 that gets drawn. So if the card you need is buried under the top card you draw, you cant use it unless you can get rid of the top card. This effectively turns the deck into 21 possible cards into 7 cards that you can maybe use. In real solitaire, you are able to cycle through each card at a time.

Both versions of Solitaire exist, everyone knows 1 draw, 3 draw is a bit more advanced and more difficult because of that reason, you only able to use the card at the bottom of the draw stack, you can only use the second card if you use the first one

If making these by scratch, I'd say stick to Solitaire for now, if you want to expand on more fun game modes, surely the community would help with ideas for sure, for me, I love Sudoku

I thought I was moving kings to the empty spot and it didn't work? Maybe I didn't do it correctly somehow? IDK

If the option for getting rewards was to play Sudoku I'd be down even if they did something unique with it tying to the game like instead of 1-9 do Red-Black flasks.
Last edited by CawsMeCal; Aug 2, 2022 @ 2:04pm
Truth_X_ile Aug 2, 2022 @ 2:08pm 
Extra clarification, the Kings can't be placed on top left 4 slots as a placeholder, they must be placed on the field when you free up a space to become "Empty" after moving cards around, you can use the free space to place a King or a stack of King Q J 10 ect. pile there, the top 4 slots are for Aces first, then every subsequent card afterwards from Ace > 2 > 3 > 4 ect. the last being King

Originally posted by KawsMeCal:
If the option for getting rewards was to play Sudoku I'd be down even if they did something unique with it tying to the game like instead of 1-9 do Red-Black flasks.

That's already a great idea :3
Last edited by Truth_X_ile; Aug 2, 2022 @ 2:09pm
CawsMeCal Aug 2, 2022 @ 2:15pm 
Originally posted by Truth_X_ile:
Extra clarification, the Kings can't be placed on top left 4 slots as a placeholder, they must be placed on the field when you free up a space to become "Empty" after moving cards around, you can use the free space to place a King or a stack of King Q J 10 ect. pile there, the top 4 slots are for Aces first, then every subsequent card afterwards from Ace > 2 > 3 > 4 ect. the last being King

Originally posted by KawsMeCal:
If the option for getting rewards was to play Sudoku I'd be down even if they did something unique with it tying to the game like instead of 1-9 do Red-Black flasks.

That's already a great idea :3
Yeah that's what I thought I did but I guess not.
Considera Core Aug 2, 2022 @ 2:58pm 
I was considering a minesweep game.
I would have to do this in the future once I am done crunching bugs.
Sudoku is a great idea alone, but would probably still run into the common complaint of being "too difficult", just like solitaire.
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Date Posted: Aug 2, 2022 @ 4:43am
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