Why are Japanese gay games always written by a woman?

[toughnails]

It's disrespectful and hurts representation.

[davidb11]

Homophobia means specifically hatred or fear of gay people.
Not many people will claim they have a fear of gay people though, but the root cause for homophobic statements come from fear and hatred.

On to the subject of the thread, which is nonsensical, let's be honest.

This story is a Yaoi story, so it should be properly tagged as LBGTQ+.
Just like every Yuri game should be tagged as that.

Because it's about same sex relationship.
Now, does it have to be a perfect reference to same sex relationships? No. It doesn't have to.
Bottom line, people will write whatever they want to write, and other people will enjoy it. No one, not even George Takei, can claim otherwise. Or any other gay man, or straight man, or lesbian, or straight woman. Period.

You can't start a holy war about it, like some people in this thread have.
As a straight man, I am not interested in Yaoi stories, but I also don't want to purge them like some people want to, in this thread.

And women can write Yaoi stories, period. There's no one allowed to claim otherwise, to do so is extremely silly.
No one can claim only gay people can write yaoi stories, and no one can claim lesbians can only write Yuri.

Attempting to do this makes no sense, and well, kills your credibility.

[Toki]

davidb11 eredeti hozzászólása:

Not many people will claim they have a fear of gay people though, but the root cause for homophobic statements come from fear and hatred.

I think in some cultures and groups that's the case, but there's also many other causes for it.

[davidb11]

Thos eredeti hozzászólása:

davidb11 eredeti hozzászólása:

Not many people will claim they have a fear of gay people though, but the root cause for homophobic statements come from fear and hatred.

I think in some cultures and groups that's the case, but there's also many other causes for it.

Yeah. I can understand that for certain. I just hate it when bizarre arguments break out for no reason.

[Robin]

Kavrick eredeti hozzászólása:

Robin eredeti hozzászólása:

No, homophobia isn't a subgroup of an anxiety disorder. Just because it has phobia in its name does not mean it works under the same principle

Imagine changing the definitions and etymology of words to push your own agenda lmao.

homophobic
/ˌhɒməˈfəʊbɪk,ˌhəʊməˈfəʊbɪk/
Learn to pronounce
adjective
having or showing a dislike of or prejudice against gay people.
"homophobic remarks"


literally ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ stupid

davidb11 eredeti hozzászólása:

Homophobia means specifically hatred or fear of gay people.
Not many people will claim they have a fear of gay people though, but the root cause for homophobic statements come from fear and hatred.

Sorry but not all prejudice is rooted in hatred of fear lmao.

[davidb11]

Yeah. Homophobia is a complicated word for certain, but the standard definition is what I wrote.
Complicating matters won't make things simple. :P

No prejudice can ever be claimed to not come from hate. THat's an impossible thing due to the word prejudice works.
The very definition.
YOu cannot have prejudice without a form of hate.

Ghandi was prejudiced towards black people, actually literally a racist, until he met them and realized he was wrong.

[Robin]

davidb11 eredeti hozzászólása:

Yeah. Homophobia is a complicated word for certain, but the standard definition is what I wrote.
Complicating matters won't make things simple. :P

No prejudice can ever be claimed to not come from hate. THat's an impossible thing due to the word prejudice works.
The very definition.
YOu cannot have prejudice without a form of hate.

Ghandi was prejudiced towards black people, actually literally a racist, until he met them and realized he was wrong.

its literally predjucided to define gay men as a fetish for a straight womans pleasure.

[Kavrick]

Robin eredeti hozzászólása:

davidb11 eredeti hozzászólása:

Yeah. Homophobia is a complicated word for certain, but the standard definition is what I wrote.
Complicating matters won't make things simple. :P

No prejudice can ever be claimed to not come from hate. THat's an impossible thing due to the word prejudice works.
The very definition.
YOu cannot have prejudice without a form of hate.

Ghandi was prejudiced towards black people, actually literally a racist, until he met them and realized he was wrong.

its literally predjucided to define gay men as a fetish for a straight womans pleasure.

If we're gonna degenerate what it means to be prejudice, then every straight man is prejudice for not wanting to have sex with a gay man.

I'm so glad that japan doesn't listen to this nonsense, the content of the subject is far, far more important than who made it, judging people based on the sexual orientation is really where we're at now when it comes to equality.

[davidb11]

Robin, And you would have a point if that was what was going on here, but it's not.
So, huh?

Seriously, it's more offensive to accuse people of magical prejudice than it is to be prejudiced.

[Robin]

Kavrick eredeti hozzászólása:

Robin eredeti hozzászólása:

its literally predjucided to define gay men as a fetish for a straight womans pleasure.

If we're gonna degenerate what it means to be prejudice, then every straight man is prejudice for not wanting to have sex with a gay man.

I'm so glad that japan doesn't listen to this nonsense, the content of the subject is far, far more important than who made it, judging people based on the sexual orientation is really where we're at now when it comes to equality.

Lmao japan doesn't even care that it actively stops same sex marriage so nice try on that one nor does it even make attempts to protect LGBTQ+ people of japan. Japan isn't going to listen to "this nonsense" because they frankly don't care about LGBTQ+ people.

davidb11 eredeti hozzászólása:

Robin, And you would have a point if that was what was going on here, but it's not.
So, huh?

Seriously, it's more offensive to accuse people of magical prejudice than it is to be prejudiced.

It quite literally is whats going on here, the game was written by a straight woman. Fujoshi culture is straight up homophobic for fetishizing gay men.

[davidb11]

Seems legit. Sure, like you are the grand arbiter?
Sorry, but you have to provide a citation and massive evidence, and I mean massive.
Like hours of work on your end to prove it.

Being offensive by claiming this is offensive is well, paradoxical.
If you were serious, you wouldn't act like this at all. PERIOD.

You also have no right to claim straight women can't write YAOI stuff.
That's offensive, and rude, and nullifies every complaint you make period.

I don't want to have to bring John Barrowman in to explain how this works.
Or any Gay man. Heck, I'll resurrect Liberace from the dead to get him to explain this to you.

[Robin]

davidb11 eredeti hozzászólása:

Seems legit. Sure, like you are the grand arbiter?
Sorry, but you have to provide a citation and massive evidence, and I mean massive.
Like hours of work on your end to prove it.

Being offensive by claiming this is offensive is well, paradoxical.
If you were serious, you wouldn't act like this at all. PERIOD.

You also have no right to claim straight women can't write YAOI stuff.
That's offensive, and rude, and nullifies every complaint you make period.

I don't want to have to bring John Barrowman in to explain how this works.
Or any Gay man. Heck, I'll resurrect Liberace from the dead to get him to explain this to you.

ah yes a gay mans fantasy is to be treated like a fetish to fujoshi culture, the same people who ignore LGBTQ+ issues while saying "omg i love yaoi its so hot". Fujoshi culture, is and has always been offensive towards the LGBTQ+ community. Straight women aren't allowed in LGBTQ+ spaces or even considered allies if they make gay porn, it comes off VERY VERY fetishizing. But like lets just ignore all of that by saying "if u were serious u wouldn't act like this at all. period", which isn't true, me and other LGBTQ+ individuals don't want fujoshi culture around anymore.

But please, do tell me that my own, and others experience, with fujoshi culture isn't real homophobia because you don't think so.

[davidb11]

Robin, Thanks for making it obvious you're full of hate and are a bad person.
You proved it by claiming straight women aren't allowed in LGBTQ+ spaces or considered allies if they make gay porn.

LOL THat never happened. Would be a massive problem if it ever happened. Seriously, that is literally an impossible thing to claim. World history proves you wrong.
You're full of hate, a misogynist, and someone who wants to disrespect the Gay community, and especially the entire LBGTQ+ spectrum.

I've seen a lot of evil in the world, but you are the type of cruelty that I have yet to see.
I'm leaving this discussion, because no one can get through your vile hatred.

I should have you tried at the Hague for Crimes Against Humanity.

[Robin]

davidb11 eredeti hozzászólása:

Ah. Thanks for making it obvious you're full of hate and are a bad person.
You proved it by claiming straight women aren't allowed in LGBTQ+ spaces or considered allies if they make gay porn.

LOL THat never happened. Would be a massive problem if it ever happened.
You're full of hate, a misogynist, and someone who wants to disrespect the Gay community, and especially the entire LBGTQ+ spectrum.

I've seen a lot of evil in the world, but you are the type of cruelty that I have yet to see.
I'm leaving this discussion, because no one can get through your vile hatred.
I hope you someday overcome this, before you literally destroy everything with your hate.

I should have you tried at the Hague for Crimes Against Humanity.

MISOGYNY FOR NOT LETTING WOMEN MAKE MLM PORN LMAOO.

[Kavrick]

davidb11 eredeti hozzászólása:

Robin, Thanks for making it obvious you're full of hate and are a bad person.
You proved it by claiming straight women aren't allowed in LGBTQ+ spaces or considered allies if they make gay porn.

LOL THat never happened. Would be a massive problem if it ever happened. Seriously, that is literally an impossible thing to claim. World history proves you wrong.
You're full of hate, a misogynist, and someone who wants to disrespect the Gay community, and especially the entire LBGTQ+ spectrum.

I've seen a lot of evil in the world, but you are the type of cruelty that I have yet to see.
I'm leaving this discussion, because no one can get through your vile hatred.

I should have you tried at the Hague for Crimes Against Humanity.

Honestly I dont understand why i argued with him for so long, kinda given up here. The guy is so arrogant he thinks he can decide what is and isn't hateful and assume intentions despite Dramatical Murder being a perfectly healthy representation of gay men to the point where I personally enjoyed it thoroughly as a bi guy.

If someone cant see the hypocritical nature of caring so much about prejudice to the point of reading so far into it to make up arbitrary definitions that require mental gymnastics to make sense while also saying that "if you're not a certain sexuality, then you shouldn't be making certain content". Then I really doubt he can be reasoned with, these are just people who want to look for something to be offended by in places where it doesn't exist.

[Robin]

Kavrick eredeti hozzászólása:

davidb11 eredeti hozzászólása:

Robin, Thanks for making it obvious you're full of hate and are a bad person.
You proved it by claiming straight women aren't allowed in LGBTQ+ spaces or considered allies if they make gay porn.

LOL THat never happened. Would be a massive problem if it ever happened. Seriously, that is literally an impossible thing to claim. World history proves you wrong.
You're full of hate, a misogynist, and someone who wants to disrespect the Gay community, and especially the entire LBGTQ+ spectrum.

I've seen a lot of evil in the world, but you are the type of cruelty that I have yet to see.
I'm leaving this discussion, because no one can get through your vile hatred.

I should have you tried at the Hague for Crimes Against Humanity.

Honestly I dont understand why i argued with him for so long, kinda given up here. The guy is so arrogant he thinks he can decide what is and isn't hateful and assume intentions despite Dramatical Murder being a perfectly healthy representation of gay men to the point where I personally enjoyed it thoroughly as a bi guy.

If someone cant see the hypocritical nature of caring so much about prejudice to the point of reading so far into it to make up arbitrary definitions that require mental gymnastics to make sense while also saying that "if you're not a certain sexuality, then you shouldn't be making certain content". Then I really doubt he can be reasoned with, these are just people who want to look for something to be offended by in places where it doesn't exist.

Its they/them thanks. but like love how you ended with the "look for something to be offended by in places where it doesn't exist" even though multiple gay people have spoken against fujoshi culture before.