Alekon
Final 10 scores that I'm having difficulty, poses I'm missing, and other bugs/oddities.
Post is mostly for devs. Worked on 100% some more today, and these are some of the things that I ran into. Here's hoping I didn't forget to write anything.

10 scores that I'm having difficulties with:
Plumetting Wullard: (Currently 9) I think this one is mostly just difficult above all. It's hard to get a good angle on him as he's falling, and him randomly turning left and right doesn't help. Currently have a lower score because of the angle.

Molo Giving Up: (Currently 9) No matter how I look at him, the most I can get is a 9. Slightly annoying, considering that it's a stationary target, but the game refuses to give me additional score based on the angle, which is the reason it's currently not a 10.

Absorbent Wishling: (Currently 8) My scoring is low due to visibility... because it's underground. I don't really know what to do about this one.

Mudwog Spying: (Currently 8) Same reason as the Wishling one, only now it's underwater instead.

Waiting Mudwog: (Currently 9) Same reason as the above two, only somehow I have a 9 instead of an 8.

Both Olsy Poses: (Both currently 9) Honestly, I have no idea. She's pretty squarely snug in the photos, but the game is deducting the angle from them. Been trying for a bit and no dice.

Many Boppasaur battle poses: (Currently 9) It's hard to take good pictures of them because there are two next by to each other, which I think can lower visibility? Otherwise, all my 9s are because of the angle.

Missing Poses:
Cockatune's song being interrupted, Jo'keel's special jump, flying Beato.
Mostly I just have no idea what to do. I don't really mind being spoiled for these poses.

Additional Oddities:
The stationary Sonawings become undetectable by the game when you zoom in too much, either making getting 10s very finicky, or "unobtainable" altogether. While not a typically a problem (there are other Sonawings after all), it makes getting the 10 score from the Delighted Sonawing pose very awkward.

If you take pictures of the Seasonal Oas after you clear the quest, sometimes it will still say "Quest Goal" from the picture. Also, the other Oas don't count towards poses, even though the game says that the pose is improved. The "Normal" Oa doesn't really stand still to get a better Overseeing Her Domain pose, mostly just loops the Admiring pose over and over. Only got a 10 because of a small window after the Overseeing pose where she stands still.

When you hold down a button and then opening the pause menu, release the button, then unpause, the game thinks the button is still held down until pressed again. Examples: charging donuts, floating.

Is there a way to get the Crockasnap Push-up pose after you group them all together? I've noticed that they don't go back to that pose.

Anyways, all of this is just me checking to make sure that the game is 100% readily beatable with all 10 scores before patches stop rolling out.

Due to the new update showing scores of poses on the pause screen, I can see that I currently have a score of 9 on both Alekon and Japley in the final area. I would like to improve those... but the camera refuses to get a picture of Alekon that's more than a 9, and I'm not even sure you can take a picture of Japley that registers. Would be cool to maybe have a version where you can move around and take pictures? Can probably also just remove the scores from them, since they're more "special" than the other fictions.

Finally, thanks to the devs for reading these comments! Keep up the good work. Lemme know if you want an example, either in video or picture format, and I can find some way to send them to you, maybe through Discord or something.
Last edited by Awkward Pengy; Jun 18, 2021 @ 2:38am
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AlekonDev  [developer] Jun 18, 2021 @ 9:35am 
Thanks for all the details! In case you aren't already doing it, when trying to get 10/10 poses it's a good idea to be using Hippoli's live scoring vision and Feffo's time slow. Let me address each of your points. Everything below will have spoilers. I'm not tagging them separately to make reading them easier.

Plumetting Wullard: (Currently 9) I think this one is mostly just difficult above all. It's hard to get a good angle on him as he's falling, and him randomly turning left and right doesn't help. Currently have a lower score because of the angle.

You can get this one to 10 as follows:
  • Get on the layered rock behind him.
  • Jump onto the lantern pole.
  • Slow time.
  • Pop balloon.
  • Take photo just as he's landing.

Molo Giving Up: (Currently 9) No matter how I look at him, the most I can get is a 9. Slightly annoying, considering that it's a stationary target, but the game refuses to give me additional score based on the angle, which is the reason it's currently not a 10.

Yeah, the angle is based on his nose, and that nose is really hanging down. This will be fixed in the next patch.

Absorbent Wishling: (Currently 8) My scoring is low due to visibility... because it's underground. I don't really know what to do about this one.

Mudwog Spying: (Currently 8) Same reason as the Wishling one, only now it's underwater instead.

Waiting Mudwog: (Currently 9) Same reason as the above two, only somehow I have a 9 instead of an 8.

We'll mark these hiding poses to ignore visibility.

Both Olsy Poses: (Both currently 9) Honestly, I have no idea. She's pretty squarely snug in the photos, but the game is deducting the angle from them. Been trying for a bit and no dice.

That one looks completely misconfigured. It'll currently count pictures from above as ideal angle. This is fixed for the next patch.

Many Boppasaur battle poses: (Currently 9) It's hard to take good pictures of them because there are two next by to each other, which I think can lower visibility? Otherwise, all my 9s are because of the angle.

These are hard, but should be possible. It helps to get on top of one of the Boppasaurs and crouch to get the best angle without losing visibility.

Missing Poses:
Cockatune's song being interrupted, Jo'keel's special jump, flying Beato.
Mostly I just have no idea what to do. I don't really mind being spoiled for these poses.

Interrupted Cockatune can be taken in a secret area near the Grove Entrance where a Cockatune is preparing for a performance. Jo'keel's flip is in a small crater behind the Winding Gully - look for red fireflies. Flying Beatos are above the Archivist.

The stationary Sonawings become undetectable by the game when you zoom in too much, either making getting 10s very finicky, or "unobtainable" altogether. While not a typically a problem (there are other Sonawings after all), it makes getting the 10 score from the Delighted Sonawing pose very awkward.

While it should be obtainable, especially with time slow, we'll look into making these more reliable.

If you take pictures of the Seasonal Oas after you clear the quest, sometimes it will still say "Quest Goal" from the picture. Also, the other Oas don't count towards poses, even though the game says that the pose is improved. The "Normal" Oa doesn't really stand still to get a better Overseeing Her Domain pose, mostly just loops the Admiring pose over and over. Only got a 10 because of a small window after the Overseeing pose where she stands still.

Yes, seasonal Oa aspects' photo feedback is a bug on our list to fix in the next patch.

When you hold down a button and then opening the pause menu, release the button, then unpause, the game thinks the button is still held down until pressed again. Examples: charging donuts, floating.

Thanks! We'll look into this.

Is there a way to get the Crockasnap Push-up pose after you group them all together? I've noticed that they don't go back to that pose.

Yes. There's a solo training Crockasnap on a hill above the gardeners in the gully.

Due to the new update showing scores of poses on the pause screen, I can see that I currently have a score of 9 on both Alekon and Japley in the final area. I would like to improve those... but the camera refuses to get a picture of Alekon that's more than a 9, and I'm not even sure you can take a picture of Japley that registers. Would be cool to maybe have a version where you can move around and take pictures? Can probably also just remove the scores from them, since they're more "special" than the other fictions.

The game doesn't really score Japley's and Alekon's photos, although you do get a guaranteed 10 glimmers from the former in the intro. We'll make them appear as perfect in the one place that shows them, the in-level pose menu during the ending.
Last edited by AlekonDev; Jun 18, 2021 @ 9:36am
MakoSipper Jan 20, 2024 @ 7:04pm 
The best way to get the Boppasaur battle poses is to throw one donut at each of them. Hopefully they'll each try to fetch it the donut that hit them, give up, then do the same for the other. If all goes well, they'll resume fighting with their backs against each other, and then taking the photos becomes considerably easier (a few of them are still a pain... for The High Bop, for example, you have to be at an angle, with Boppasaur a bit to your left because his angle changes during that move)
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