Troops should stay hidden in cover if setup to be silent

[Trien]

not sure why enemy can see through boxes

[YouMustBeMythtaken]

I would have to agree with that. During the Moskow mission, I was stealthing and I was on an elevated platform (solid stone, so it wasn't like they could see through it like it was wood.) behind an equally stone wall. Immediatly got spotted by people who were on the lower level, which in real life probably would have been a good six to ten feet down.

[wery]

Hi, I’m not sure if I understand correctly what the issue is here, but just to clarify - the silent mode influences if the enemy can hear you, not see you. And, the covers also do not make you invisible, they just lower the chance of being hit.

[YouMustBeMythtaken]

Originally posted by wery:

Hi, I’m not sure if I understand correctly what the issue is here, but just to clarify - the silent mode influences if the enemy can hear you, not see you. And, the covers also do not make you invisible, they just lower the chance of being hit.

Right, but the issue here is that, at least in my example, the patrols are seeing people that they physically would not be capable of seeing from their position. Hiding in a crouch behind a stone wall should mean that the patrols can't see through solid stone and spot you.

[LukanGamer]

Originally posted by YouMustBeMythtaken:

Originally posted by wery:

Hi, I’m not sure if I understand correctly what the issue is here, but just to clarify - the silent mode influences if the enemy can hear you, not see you. And, the covers also do not make you invisible, they just lower the chance of being hit.

Right, but the issue here is that, at least in my example, the patrols are seeing people that they physically would not be capable of seeing from their position. Hiding in a crouch behind a stone wall should mean that the patrols can't see through solid stone and spot you.

Ya unfortunately the stealth is low end in this, just have to accept the game mechanic way.
At least for "fairness" enemies just a bit to far will ignore all the bullets shooting by and act like everything normal (unless a alarm is raised then debate if they want to check it out for a bit of course).

[Tunch Khan]

Stealth could use some work, I'm with the OP here. You should not be visible when crouched under a wall.

[Kani]

Ya stealth needs work, if you are crouched behind a solid object blocking line of sight you should not be able to be seen. It just makes sense, like logically and it feels out of place with the current mechanic. Concealment inside bushes work fine but I feel there should be a chance to be spotted in a bush or something unlike behind a solid object

Also the fact you can fire multiple weapons at someone and not alert a nearby patrol is funny too.

[jarx]

Stealth is really OP as long as there are bushes to hide in. 1 or 2 riflemen can clear map most of the time. When you get a map with no hiding spots, stealth becomes almost impossible.
It is odd that you cant hide behind walls or boxes but if line of sight was all that needed for stealth, it would be way too easy

[Monarchco]

Originally posted by Trien:

not sure why enemy can see through boxes

find a bush.

stealth is OP.

[gabgab01]

yep.
in silent mode, your troops are absolutely invisible if they stand between two sunflowers, but if they're hiding behind an obstacle like a box or a car, they might aswell put on police siren helmets.

also i have never seen sound in action. wether or not your troops get spotted is wholly determined of them stepping into the enemies vision cones.

considering you are only like 3 to 8 ppl against an entire army, you NEED good stealth to even have a chance in the first place.

[Monarchco]

Originally posted by gabgab01:

also i have never seen sound in action. wether or not your troops get spotted is wholly determined of them stepping into the enemies vision cones.

No.

If you run up behind an enemy, they will hear you. It's probably about a 10m range.
You have to be stealth to reach them from behind before they turn around and enter combat. So stealth does behave with sound there.

[Tichac 22]

Yes I agree... This was already used by games (Comandos or Partisans 1941)...
In silent mode, our soldiers should not be visible from a distance of 1/2 the enemy's vision.

Of course, if the soldier is closer, he will see them behind the wooden fence. But behind the stone wall not even at this moment. Only that they would move and make a noise.

Ideally, Legionnaires in silent mode and near (still out of sight) the enemy, try alone to hide somehow. Crouch down, lie down in the grass.
In practice, this means, I stay with them on the grass, so they lie down on their own in silent mode. I stay behind the wall in cover, so they keep their heads down so they don't see them.
Noise reduction in silent mode is fine.

[DieNackteAmeise]

With the OP here,

Really enjoying the game generally but I find the lack of a proper stealth solution to be bizarre. As an outgunned, under-supplied unit behind enemy line stealth should be the primary way we approach most situations and yet simple things like hiding behind cover objects isn't even functional. We also need the ability to stack up on buildings and other surfaces, there aren't enough cover objects in general. Hopefully this is something that can be remedied with patches in the future.

[KhanWolf95]

Same issue, the solid cover should count as stealth areas as long as you arent in motion to said cover or direct line of sight from the side of by the enemy. Also the day and night cycle should affect the los of enemies and allies alike when it comes to the decision to do stealth on the tactical missions. Without these kind of tweaks, it makes setting up ambushes and crossfire positions pointless. The enemy should not see me behind huge wood logs or a truck.

[TheSilentFirefly]

Originally posted by DieNackteAmeise:

With the OP here,

Really enjoying the game generally but I find the lack of a proper stealth solution to be bizarre. As an outgunned, under-supplied unit behind enemy line stealth should be the primary way we approach most situations and yet simple things like hiding behind cover objects isn't even functional. We also need the ability to stack up on buildings and other surfaces, there aren't enough cover objects in general. Hopefully this is something that can be remedied with patches in the future.

I agree like, if there is soft cover and hard cover, hard cover should also act a deterrent of the enemy actually being able to see your troops. At least when being stealthy, Since it is a more solid cover object. I also do wish I could stack them up at corners of buildings to have them use the corner as cover and shoot from there. It feels like my tactical creativity isn't as available to me in this game due to the lack of cover locations.