鬼谷八荒 Tale of Immortal

鬼谷八荒 Tale of Immortal

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Nameless Oct 7, 2021 @ 8:21am
This enemy system is insane.
You literally cannot kill anyone even if they are jackasses towards you. If you do they will bring their entire ancestry and their friends and families to hunt you down. And if you do manage to defend yourself then they hate you even more and also bring their friends and families and ancestors to hunt you down.

Also if your friend is killed by some random person that random person is now registered as your enemy and if they are rank above you they now start to hunt you down. Wtf? This is some crazy system that needs to get overhauled because you can easily get repeatedly killed no matter what. I had to take the 100% escape skill because now I got a few ppl on my rear for no apparent reason.
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Z Oct 7, 2021 @ 8:50am 
Yeah, it's disappointing. It doesn't help that you cannot possibly overcome a realm difference later on.

You may wish to try to use the spirit that lets you track a target for revenge and give them gifts instead (rings and mounts from shops are good). This could help.

I've also seen someone suggest that the game will outright spawn family/social relations if you kill someone, that didn't exist before, sooooo...
JOHN Oct 7, 2021 @ 1:40pm 
Originally posted by Z:
I've also seen someone suggest that the game will outright spawn family/social relations if you kill someone, that didn't exist before, sooooo...

Haven't happend to me, even if I killed someone without family.
Myth Alric Oct 7, 2021 @ 6:50pm 
I have killed some people without friends or family and nothing bad happened. It is also possible to increase how much your enemies like you, so they stop trying to kill you. Also if you just generally well liked, then friends of yours will talk about you to others and increase how other people like you.

Anyway, I suggest you be very careful and if you do kill someone and they have a powerful family member and you ever come across them in a city or something, bribe them.
YonnnesT Oct 7, 2021 @ 10:52pm 
I killed 1 person who tried to pick-pocket me twice in-a-row (she tried stealing a random manual i had, and then immediately after I spared her, she tried to take the item she just bribed me with). She had no family alive, 1 friend who was weaker than me, and 3 enemies stronger than her.

Turns out that 1 friend had 20 other friends, so, after that friend had attacked me, lost, and quickly fled, I ended up having a dozen or so other people (1 or 2 realms above me) tracking me down every month to kill me for the next couple years saying that I shall pay for attacking the person who attacked me first. And all the people who tried to kill me were people I had a few hearts of affinity with too, so being friends won't necessarily stop them from attacking you but will help you save from having to bribe them to spare you.

Ningshuang is a savior after you unlock her 2nd artisanship skill. When you get it you can save-scum kill anyone with no consequences. At end game, I'm noting names after auctions and tourneys, and then I assassinate them for their items/rewards.
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Mad Hawaiian Oct 7, 2021 @ 11:56pm 
I did a demonic sword run, I killed many people. I believe its called "tyranny of rank". As in, those of a lower rank are nothing to those above them. If you are going to go around killing people, either make up with their stronger family by gifting them, or befriend someone of a much higher rank.

If you are Golden Core, but have a master that's much higher rank (Rank 7/8 would be best). People will beat you up, but not kill you even if you don't bribe them, as they know your master will kill them.

If you are going to go around killing people, but don't want to make high rank friends/master, then make sure to grab the 100% Flee Chance ability on awakening. Actually, I would suggest picking it up anyways, as its a major time savor, and can sometime eject you into areas much further away/over impassable mountains right now.

Alternatively, you could always keep a large stock of the anti-tracking charm sold in cities and spam them often.
Last edited by Mad Hawaiian; Oct 8, 2021 @ 12:16am
J Jan 26, 2022 @ 6:45am 
Sorry for the necro. Has this system been dealt with or updated in any way? Can you get away with murder or something
Last edited by J; Jan 26, 2022 @ 6:46am
jazz1541 Jan 26, 2022 @ 7:43am 
Originally posted by Jejo:
Sorry for the necro. Has this system been dealt with or updated in any way? Can you get away with murder or something
As it was said above, you could always get away with murder but had to make certain preparations beforehand (spirit, charms, breakthrough, bribes). Don't go around thinking you can kill anyone and there will be no consequences.
Sayla Massochist Jan 26, 2022 @ 9:38am 
Actions in this game have consequences. If you want to get away with killing and stealing then you better be strong enough to handle the enemies you make or have a close relation (sworn sibling/adopted relation/master) who is strong enough that you just aren't worth the risk.
Bop Jan 26, 2022 @ 9:44am 
Originally posted by jazz1541:
Originally posted by Jejo:
Sorry for the necro. Has this system been dealt with or updated in any way? Can you get away with murder or something
As it was said above, you could always get away with murder but had to make certain preparations beforehand (spirit, charms, breakthrough, bribes). Don't go around thinking you can kill anyone and there will be no consequences.

Hi mind teaching us how the spirit, charms, breakthrough, and bribes work so you can get away with killing someone?

I think I can only understand the breakthrough part wherein they wont chase you if you're strong enough. How about the other stuff?

Would really appreciate it!
Sayla Massochist Jan 26, 2022 @ 9:57am 
Not entirely sure about Spirit but:
Breakthrough: Be stronger than your enemies.

Charms: Have friends and close relations who are stronger than your enemies.

Bribe: Keep good items such as heaven earth treasures, red or orange manuals, or other valuables you can offer enemies. You won't technically "get away" but they will be more likely to be waved off rather than killed. You could also try to get into their good graces by offering them valuables when you run into them in cities.
J Jan 26, 2022 @ 10:24am 
So you will always be found out no matter what if they have friends and family? Is it possible to kill someone and remain unknown?
Sayla Massochist Jan 26, 2022 @ 10:35am 
Originally posted by Jejo:
So you will always be found out no matter what if they have friends and family? Is it possible to kill someone and remain unknown?

In the world of cultivation it is common for cultivators to mark people close to them. Just like you get a tick at the start of the month that your friends/family/master gets involved with something they similarly do as well...

In effect when it comes to the world of cultivation you can't get away with anything. Perhaps once the Talisman update is here they will add a one that may conceal your activities from NPCs but for the moment they'll always know it was you.

Edit: To clearify there is a talisman in game to prevent NPCs from tracking you for a short time in shops but not one that'll make them not know your involvement in an assault/murder.
Last edited by Sayla Massochist; Jan 26, 2022 @ 10:38am
BrokenHeaven Jan 26, 2022 @ 11:00am 
It's a bad system but I dont think they will ever change this tho
Bop Jan 26, 2022 @ 11:03am 
Originally posted by Sayla Massochist:
Not entirely sure about Spirit but:
Breakthrough: Be stronger than your enemies.

Charms: Have friends and close relations who are stronger than your enemies.

Bribe: Keep good items such as heaven earth treasures, red or orange manuals, or other valuables you can offer enemies. You won't technically "get away" but they will be more likely to be waved off rather than killed. You could also try to get into their good graces by offering them valuables when you run into them in cities.

Thanks! I hope they add more features that will interact with this system.
worstcase11 Jan 26, 2022 @ 11:18am 
I haven't even killed that one person who tried to steal from me - just gave them a beating and sent them off with an insult. - But now their (higher level) guild leader mother has already attackked me twice, trying to kill my cultivator x_x

Never been so glad before that I picked an agility fate at the start. At least I can run off without a hitch.
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Date Posted: Oct 7, 2021 @ 8:21am
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