1.5 years wait for 2 variant civs

[the joker baby]

Gg

What an absolute let down. No Spain or Vikings or Aztecs. Just English 2 and French 3.

WOMP WOMP

[Xan84]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Sologhi:

'The Knights Templar are considered a variant of the French. However, there are no shared traits, bonuses, units or upgrades between the two civilizations. The Knights Templar have a powerful unit roster full of unique units and a unique recruitment system, and their gameplay will center around their Fortress building. Their commanderie allies include the French, the Teutonic Order, the Republic of Genoa, the Kingdom of Poland, and the Kingdom of Castille. ' From the wiki, the cav with javlins are meant to be the 'jinete's, i think' and they have some form of polish heavy cav (not winged hussars, as it is too early for that)

You can be 100% sure you have shared upgrades since every race has shared upgrades like lumber, gold, attack upgrades etc. Its just that they will have unique ones. I think its an exageration what they said there. Also I assume they will share buildings and probably workers as well. I am glad we will be getting the DLC but man I would've liked 2 new civs instead of that historical whatever.

[YouMoMCallME]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von the joker baby:

Gg

What an absolute let down. No Spain or Vikings or Aztecs. Just English 2 and French 3.

WOMP WOMP

If it costs like Sultans Ascend DLC it will be a fiasco :(

[Galahad]

No wonder people's asses are on fire on the forum. We used to get 2 civilizations and 5 civilization variants with a good campaign in the DLC. Now we only get 2 civilization variants and 4 boring missions with medals, like the Ottoman Empire challenge.
Which effective manager thought that this would be generally accepted by the players?

[monkeyBreath]

1. Anyone expecting more than 2 variant civs didn't read the DLC info before this.
2. The Knights Templar is basically a new civ, it just reuses french architecture and voices.

[Velimirius]

The shambolic state of devs really, milking on cheap variants instead of release some proper civs. But soys gonna defend.

[NoobusMaximus]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von monkeyBreath:

1. Anyone expecting more than 2 variant civs didn't read the DLC info before this.
2. The Knights Templar is basically a new civ, it just reuses french architecture and voices.

No, it's a variant. Reusing architecture and voices is huge, compared to ~10 new units and a few upgrade icons. It's cutting the cost efficiently by giving up on what's not impactful to gameplay, but it's a big budget cut, and especially casuals will dislike the missing theme of it being a proper civ, and the recycling of assets. I think the budget is definitely lower for AoE4 than it used to be so they have to make do with what they got. Weird call from Microsoft if you ask me, considering how well first DLC sold.

[NoobusMaximus]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von YouMoMCallME:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von the joker baby:

Gg

What an absolute let down. No Spain or Vikings or Aztecs. Just English 2 and French 3.

WOMP WOMP

If it costs like Sultans Ascend DLC it will be a fiasco :(

If this is more than $8 I wish them luck with the sales. It's just some unit reskins and some maps.

[Xan84]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von NoobusMaximus:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von YouMoMCallME:

If it costs like Sultans Ascend DLC it will be a fiasco :(

If this is more than $8 I wish them luck with the sales. It's just some unit reskins and some maps.

I really love RTS, I will end up buying it one way or another...

[Appiodici]

The Genoa, Castille and Poland into commandery Templar maybe say that we will never have Spain, Italy or Poland... the last dlc will be vikings and variants for India or others and that is it i think, game wil be "finish"

[Tugalazix]

They killed AOE3 for this DLC.

[NoobusMaximus]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Xan84:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von NoobusMaximus:

If this is more than $8 I wish them luck with the sales. It's just some unit reskins and some maps.

I really love RTS, I will end up buying it one way or another...

If it's worth it for you, buy it. If it's not and you don't think you'll enjoy these civs, then don't, because it will only encourage them to do more.

[NoobusMaximus]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Appiodici:

The Genoa, Castille and Poland into commandery Templar maybe say that we will never have Spain, Italy or Poland... the last dlc will be vikings and variants for India or others and that is it i think, game wil be "finish"

It can also mean they're preparing assets to reuse when they're releasing Castille and Poland, making it more likely to happen.

[Many-Named]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von monkeyBreath:

1. Anyone expecting more than 2 variant civs didn't read the DLC info before this.
2. The Knights Templar is basically a new civ, it just reuses french architecture and voices.

Then why is it called a Variant?

[qUINKORF]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Tugalazix:

They killed AOE3 for this DLC.

???

AOM DLC was alot bigger than this and they spend way more budget on that.

[qUINKORF]

aoe4 only gets 2 variants after almost 2 years of waiting in comparison and we have to wait 2 years for new civs