Worth Getting Sultan DLC?

[skeet1983]

Hi guys. I have the base game of AoE 4 installed, thinking about getting the Sultan DLC. Is it worth getting? Thoughts appreciated :)

[76561199562681539]

If you enjoy the base game, yes. It's a very solid DLC.
(That's my opinion mostly based on multiplayer, I haven't played much of the single player.)

[NoobusMaximus]

It's great value for money. More maps, more biomes, 2 new civs, 4 new variant civs, a mini-campaign. If you have the money definitely worth it.

[NoobusMaximus]

Originally posted by Automaton 32:

Samurai OP, More so when mounted. Should be all you need to know.

Samurai OP, but Japanese overall, not OP.

[KonigTiger]

Byzantines are best, choose purple color for 1.5x damage.

[James3157]

When I tried to play this campaign from DLC evem the first mission seemed like it was too hard even on standard difficulty and I could never get past the first mission either. My game would crash way too much as well when I tried to play the first mission, but it only comes with one campaign which is a little disappointing to say the least for what was supposed to be an expansion pack, but does not really seem like one contrary to AoE II: DE that usually adds three campaigns for each dlc. Apparently, Relic Entertainment is willing to sacrifice quantity in exchange for quality, but I still think that the first expansion pack should have added at least two campaigns and not just one campaign. I know that Relic Entertainment seems to struggling financially, but that does not seem like a good enough excuse for Sultan's Ascend to have only one campaign.

[NoobusMaximus]

Originally posted by James3157:

When I tried to play this campaign from DLC evem the first mission seemed like it was too hard even on standard difficulty. I could never get past the first mission. My game would crash way too much as well when I tried to play the first mission, but it only comes with one campaign which is a little disappointing to say the least for what was supposed to be an expansion pack, but does not really seem like one contrary to AoE II: DE that usually adds three campaigns for each dlc.

Can I lend you my name?

[James3157]

Originally posted by NoobusMaximus:

Can I lend you my name?

You can if you want, but Sultan's Ascend is disappointing to say the least, because it does not have enough campaigns. It should have had at least two campaigns and not just one.

[NoobusMaximus]

Originally posted by James3157:

Originally posted by NoobusMaximus:

Can I lend you my name?

You can if you want, but Sultan's Ascend is disappointing to say the least. It does not have enough campaigns. It should have had at least two campaigns and not just one.

I haven't played any campaigns in the game, and I have 1k hours in it.

[James3157]

Originally posted by NoobusMaximus:

I haven't played any campaigns in the game, and I have 1k hours in it.

Dehli Sultanate (which makes them not being included for a campaign makes the dlc title very misleading because its name title ends with "Sultanate" ), Byzantines, and/or Japanese not having a campaign from this DLC was a missed opportunity. Instead Relic Entertainment decides to sacrifice quantity in exchange for quality even if that means less campaigns as well. I also prefer single player over multiplayer overall. Why does it have be to quantity vs. quality instead of including both? The only explanation as to why Sultan's Ascend only has one campaign is that apparently Relic Entertainment is struggling financially (which as mentioned earlier Relic Entertainment not that long ago had lay offs) and could not afford to take their precious time in adding two campaigns instead of only just one.

[NoobusMaximus]

Originally posted by James3157:

I also prefer single player over multiplayer overall. Why does it have be to quantity vs. quality instead of including both?

If you invested a bit of time in understanding the game, you would fall in love with multiplayer. The genre isn't exactly the most approachable, you'd have to be a relatively smart person to get enjoyment out of it, but you'd be missing out if you only played it for a few campaign missions. There are RTS games focused on SP, meant to be played once and then forgotten, but this game is much better.

[James3157]

Originally posted by NoobusMaximus:

If you invested a bit of time in understanding the game, you would fall in love with multiplayer. The genre isn't exactly the most approachable, you'd have to be a relatively smart person to get enjoyment out of it, but you'd be missing out if you only played it for a few campaign missions. There are RTS games focused on SP, meant to be played once and then forgotten, but this game is much better.

Skirmishes have to be taken into an account as well, but not everyone likes skirmishes and I could understand why some people prefer campaigns over skirmishes. (Edit) The only argument that can be made against this is that apparently some people who gave Sultan's Ascend a negative review is because they do not like the campaign. As mentioned previously with myself personally I cannot even get past the first mission even on standard difficulty partially because of the crashes and partially because the first mission seems like it is too hard.

[Shade]

No they dont deserve your money

[NoobusMaximus]

Originally posted by James3157:

Originally posted by NoobusMaximus:

If you invested a bit of time in understanding the game, you would fall in love with multiplayer. The genre isn't exactly the most approachable, you'd have to be a relatively smart person to get enjoyment out of it, but you'd be missing out if you only played it for a few campaign missions. There are RTS games focused on SP, meant to be played once and then forgotten, but this game is much better.

Skirmishes have to be taken into an account as well, but not everyone likes skirmishes and I could understand why some people prefer campaigns over skirmishes. (Edit) The only argument that can be made against this is that apparently some people who gave Sultan's Ascend a negative review is because they do not like the campaign. As mentioned previously with myself personally I cannot even get past the first mission even on standard difficulty partially because of the crashes and partially because the first mission seems like it is too hard.

To me multiplayer is the game. You're a chess player that only plays chess puzzles, and there's nothing wrong with that, but chess is a strategy game. Maybe not the perfect analogy, but AoE4 seems very focused on multiplayer, so you're judging it based on what it's not. Like a League of Legends player that doesn't like the storytelling. Or a Minecraft player that doesn't like the graphics.

[kpapag55]

Yes.

[Vudash]

Yeah