which factions you wanna play in AOE4 [ here is factions list ]

[Erica Estrelina Hill]

Byzantine
Vikings
Polish
Hungarian
Spanish
Ottoman
Japanese
North Korean
the Swedish
Ethiopians
Saracens
Mari
Italian
Danes

[Erica Estrelina Hill]

Publicado originalmente por Seven of Nine:

Publicado originalmente por Ant Ra:

In order to correspond to the international significance of the timeline of the game:

Byzantium, Hungary, Korea and just the Danes. I would still like to see the persians and afghans to better carry the "orient". Tibet would also be an interesting variant then in addition. :lunar2019piginablanket:

Vikings have nothing to do there, they were already on the decline and only one more annoyance in the (high) middle ages. Swedes were not yet ready. Just as little as the ottomans or saracens and spanish/portuguese. Maybe just venice, but they had only trade and a few political intentions to the german hanse and africa and for muslim nations already evasive to save the tariffs,.

More was not at that time like Japanese and italian city states. They were preoccupied with themselves and were not yet actors on the world stage. The Mari would be redundant. Poles were a factor but at that time only regional, just like the teutonic order. They had nearly nothing to do with the ingame existing nation. Ethiopia could be seen trading with italian cities, but that was very vague.

Again, there is too much renaissance like most of the other proposed nations to fit the game.
Hm, if you want the spanish in the timeline you can also take the dutch for the late renaissance.

Of course, if the game were to leave the current timeline and fully incorporate said renaissance, all proposed nations and more would work.

Danes early game could be more vikingy and late game more like the Hanseatic League, people often overlook the area, marking it insignificant. Same goes for Poland and much of Eastern Europe.
England, France and even the HRE were quite insignificant on the global level, same goes for China and India, as those areas too were mostly preoccupied by themselves in the first place (pointing at Delhi, which was more a regional power than anything merely resembling global, but the same applies for China too). The only global level civ we have in game at the moment is the mongols, who historically have played a large part in connecting East to West.

Italians could be represented by Venice or Genoa or Savoy, all of them being important in trade in the Mediterranean, while it is true that they are more Renaissance than proper Medieval, but the late game is already more Renaissance than Middle Ages, which afaik was a deliberate choice by the devs.

Saracen is an off-call, as I see them represented by the Abbasids. Ottomans could be represented the same way as Danes: early game would be more like Mongols, while transitioning into a gunpowder heavy settled civ in the game (Danes would be infantry heavy and more offensive in early game, transitioning to trade by late game, to 'represent' their part in the Hanseatic LEague.) While the Danish transition is much less nuanced, the ottoman would be, since early game they would focus more on cav only to supplant it with Sipahis (A more heavily armed horseman, or a less armed and armoured Knight with better mobility), Janissaries (obviously a gunpowder infantry, cheaper and faster to train but weaker), and our friend, the Great Bombard, which would be a bombard on crack.
Venice would be a nice addition, along with Portuguese to shake up the naval meta a bit.

Ethiopia would be an interesting pick and in my honest opinion they deserve to be in the game, for they resisted the spread of Islam in the region, and are a unique snowflake in Africa.

And please, don't call Poland insignificant. Poland supplied much of medieval Europe with agricultural goods, and they have had their fair share of history even in the medieval era, pointing at the Commonwealth of Poland-Lithuania, although that is a very late development in the games timeline. They had their wars with the HRE, the Teutons, and they too were acting as a Christianizing force in the Baltic, and they did interfere with Ottomans and Russians too.

To really sum it up, most of the civs we see in-game at the moment were regional actors, with the exception of the Mongols.

you think they will they add Italians ?

[PeteSkTemplar]

Publicado originalmente por Erica Estrelina Hill:

you think they will they add Italians ?

It would be too innacurate to use "Italians" rather Kingdoms / Republic of Sicilly, or Neapol or Venice, Genoa from bit more historical point of view I guess.

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Publicado originalmente por PeteSkTemplar:

Publicado originalmente por Erica Estrelina Hill:

you think they will they add Italians ?

It would be too innacurate to use "Italians" rather Kingdoms / Republic of Sicilly, or Neapol or Venice, Genoa from bit more historical point of view I guess.

They should add the Kingdom of Hawaian pizza with ketchup :D

[HAKUNA MATATA]

Most factions are obsolete, since they would be to similiar to each other. On the other hand, you want the game design to be balanced and competitive. So having to many civs is hard to balance. The more civs get implemented the longer we have to wait till the game gets "e-sports ready".
Factions that would make sense in order to have unique cultures and playstiles:
- Japan
- Vikings
- Portugal/Spain
- Ethiopians
- Inca / Aztec
- Cherokee / Apache etc.

[Erica Estrelina Hill]

Publicado originalmente por HAKUNA MATATA:

Most factions are obsolete, since they would be to similiar to each other. On the other hand, you want the game design to be balanced and competitive. So having to many civs is hard to balance. The more civs get implemented the longer we have to wait till the game gets "e-sports ready".
Factions that would make sense in order to have unique cultures and playstiles:
- Japan
- Vikings
- Portugal/Spain
- Ethiopians
- Inca / Aztec
- Cherokee / Apache etc.

south america inca and aztec ... hmmmm .. i dont know .. this is sounds like a little impossible in aoe 4

[HAKUNA MATATA]

Publicado originalmente por Erica Estrelina Hill:

Publicado originalmente por HAKUNA MATATA:

Most factions are obsolete, since they would be to similiar to each other. On the other hand, you want the game design to be balanced and competitive. So having to many civs is hard to balance. The more civs get implemented the longer we have to wait till the game gets "e-sports ready".
Factions that would make sense in order to have unique cultures and playstiles:
- Japan
- Vikings
- Portugal/Spain
- Ethiopians
- Inca / Aztec
- Cherokee / Apache etc.

south america inca and aztec ... hmmmm .. i dont know .. this is sounds like a little impossible in aoe 4

Well, I don't think so. You could design them to be civs with early bonuses and unique abilities to balance out their lack of gunpowder.

[Krypton]

I would like to see:

Byzantine Empire
Ottomans/ or some other Turkic
Hungarians
Koreans
Japanese

+ maybe an Indian civ that isn't muslim
+ maybe some Nordic faction but I think they shouldn't be called vikings because the viking era didn't really continue into the late medieval stages

[Erica Estrelina Hill]

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I would like to see:

Byzantine Empire
Ottomans/ or some other Turkic
Hungarians
Koreans
Japanese

+ maybe an Indian civ that isn't muslim
+ maybe some Nordic faction but I think they shouldn't be called vikings because the viking era didn't really continue into the late medieval stages

i wonder , how will they make japanese stone wall , i mean , in japanese Sengoku age , there is no stone wall , that thing is just a stone barrier with their Tenshu

[Cacomistle]

Publicado originalmente por Erica Estrelina Hill:

Publicado originalmente por You:

I would like to see:

Byzantine Empire
Ottomans/ or some other Turkic
Hungarians
Koreans
Japanese

+ maybe an Indian civ that isn't muslim
+ maybe some Nordic faction but I think they shouldn't be called vikings because the viking era didn't really continue into the late medieval stages

i wonder , how will they make japanese stone wall , i mean , in japanese Sengoku age , there is no stone wall , that thing is just a stone barrier with their Tenshu

No stone wall?

It was close to me between Japanese and Vikings (maybe Byzantines) but if they lack stone wall, definitely Japanese.

[Erica Estrelina Hill]

Publicado originalmente por Cacomistle:

Publicado originalmente por Erica Estrelina Hill:

i wonder , how will they make japanese stone wall , i mean , in japanese Sengoku age , there is no stone wall , that thing is just a stone barrier with their Tenshu

No stone wall?

It was close to me between Japanese and Vikings (maybe Byzantines) but if they lack stone wall, definitely Japanese.

yes , they dont have wall in sengoku age

[Vault]

Not North Korea. Call it Goryeo.