Thank you AOE 4

[TheFibrewire]

I went and played Stormgate then realised how good AOE4. Maybe I treated AOE4 too harshly at start but man this game is 100000% better than stormgate. This game had a pretty functional launch, campaigns were good and enjoyable with fully finished scenarios. I get it stormgate is in EA but even EA has some standards.

AOE4 is very good with the latest expacs and the unique civ mechanics are just amazing and fun. except variant civs.

Ty once again AOE4 team and good luck, really excited on what is about to come.

[Dimsumsum[STA]]

Yeah, I sink in over hundreds of hours into AOE4 on launch. StormGate I am not even excited to play beyond 10 games.

[Soul Reaver]

stormgate turned out to be much worse than what i expected, i doubt it will even survive till the end of EA

[NoobusMaximus]

Originally posted by Soul Reaver:

stormgate turned out to be much worse than what i expected, i doubt it will even survive till the end of EA

I've always thought that game will fail. They had no vision, either for MP or SP, just a few sparse ideas of what was bad in hindsight about SC2. A passionate dev would have many cool ideas that they've always wanted to implement and would not copy 95% of them from other games. It's much more likely they just wanted to make MTX SC2, judging by the fact the monetization system is where most of their ideas went into.

[Heartlessphil]

problem with Stormgate is that I only see a Starcraft 2 clone (from wish) lol

[Sylvester Sirloin]

Lol, I was thinking the same thing. I played an hour or so of stormgate trying each of the 3 factions. The gameplay is horrible compared to AOE4. AOE4 launch was bad and could be considered early access if they put it that way but didn't. I would say the Anniversary update was the "real" release of AOE4.

Stormgate is just a crappier version of starcraft 2 with the only "unique mechanics" is the ability system instead of +1 upgrades to attack and defense. And the specials each faction has but those are so lackluster and not fun to use.

While on the other hand AOE4 is similar to AOE2. But in my opinion did improve on the gameplay mechanics of what AOE2 was and to be more modern making the civs more unique where each civ does not play the same. AOE2 has better immersion and campaigns than AOE4.

[Silenius]

Originally posted by TheFibrewire:

I went and played Stormgate then realised how good AOE4. Maybe I treated AOE4 too harshly at start but man this game is 100000% better than stormgate. This game had a pretty functional launch, campaigns were good and enjoyable with fully finished scenarios. I get it stormgate is in EA but even EA has some standards.

AOE4 is very good with the latest expacs and the unique civ mechanics are just amazing and fun. except variant civs.

Ty once again AOE4 team and good luck, really excited on what is about to come.

I mean every RTS game compared to SC2 sucks because they don't understand basic design, mechanics, control, hotkeys... This game is very B tier but it can be fun sometimes...

JUST REMEMBER NEVER EVER ATTACK FIRST, EITHER TECH OR EXPAND OR HARASS HIS ECONOMY IF YOU CAN, LATE ON GET SUPERIOR ARMY COMP AND SPAM CASTLES TAKE MAP AND YOU CAN SEND UNITS UNITS ON MAP TRYING TO ATTACK HIS ECONOMY IF YOU CAN HOLD HOME, BUT WHEN YOU COMMIT UNITS THEY ARE USUALLY DEAD, ESPECIALLY AT START THERE IS NO REASON TO ATTACK UNLESS YOU PLAY SPECIFIC FACTION LIKE MONGOLS, DEPENDS WHAT YOU CAN GET OUT OF ATTACK BUT DON'T COMMIT LIKE IT IS NOT WORTH... IT IS ALL ABOUT GETTING BETTER UNITS/UPGRADES/TECH FASTER AND THEN TAKE MORE MAP AND LET YOUR OPPONENT ATTACK YOU. YOU CAN ATTACK ON TIER 3/4 SOMETIMES AND THAT'S FINE BUT STILL LIKE DON'T COMMIT MUCH BE CAREFUL UNTIL YO UGET BETTER ARMY IF YOU KILL HIS ARMY GO BACK DON'T KEEP ATTACK THERE IS TOO MUCH DEFENDER ADVANTAGE

MICRO IS TOTAL GABRAGE AND TEHRE IS NO WAY PROTECT YOUR CATAPULTS. EVEN AT AGE III/IV KILL HIS ARMY THAN WAIT BUILD CASTLE BEFORE HIS BASE AND WALLS TO PROTECT YOUR ♥♥♥♥ SET RALLY POINT, DON'T OVER COMMIT... YOU WILL THANK ME FOR THIS...

IT IS ALL ABOUT RIGHT COMP AND ENGAGEMENT AND FORMATIONS AND WHAT NOT. YOU CAN PUT SOME PIKEMAN NEXT TO CAPTAPULS ON HOLD GROUN THAT HELPS BUT LIKE MICRO IS TOTAL GARBAGE AND THERE ARE HARDCOUNTERS, IF LIKE 3-6 UNITS ARE LEFT FROM OTHER GROUND IT MESSED AI TARGETING AND CAN LOSE YOU GAME IT IS VERY BAD... AND YOU CANNOT ALSO FOCUS SINGLE UNITS EFFICENTLY AND SOMETIMES UNIT MOVEMENT TOTALLY BUGS OUT AND YOUR UNITS DON'T REACT...

NOT to mention scared places why would you ever attack if you can turtle there... It is not fun but unless you want to lose games after 30 minutes macroing and doing almost nothing before it gets to fun part when you can finally play bit...

[NoobusMaximus]

Originally posted by Silenius:

MICRO IS TOTAL GABRAGE AND TEHRE IS NO WAY PROTECT YOUR CATAPULTS

If opponent doesn't have Springalds, you can just move your Spears on top of the Mangonel and stand ground and opponent won't be able to reach it. If opponent has Springalds, you need to pull back with your Magonels and make your own Springalds to kill theirs.

Micro is not the focus of AoE games. The focus is on macro and decision making, but there is plenty of micro and a competent player will win against you in a fight easily. Counters do matter because this is a strategy game, not a game where anything can work against anything if you micro it.

If you want a game where you can win with whatever as long as you're faster and more precise, I recommend SC2 or SG instead. But a lot of people appreciate AoE games precisely because micro, strategy, economy management and decision making are much more balanced.

Originally posted by Silenius:

I mean every RTS game compared to SC2 sucks because they don't understand basic design, mechanics, control, hotkeys

You can play SC2 if you think it's better. To me, SC2 is the most frustrating game I can play. It's nice and streamlined, if flows smoothly and its budget was way above anything that's been made since, and it's flashy and spectacular to watch, but gameplay is stressful, even rage inducing at times. And that was its downfall, that's why everyone ran to LoL and SC2 stagnated up until they introduced co-op and made the game free.

[Plastic Master]

Soon this game will be in life support.
Beastyqt just said he doesnt care about battles, because strategy is all about booming and building. He who does this best, must win. So yeah, he wants base-building simulator out of AOEIV and this will kill it.

[TheFibrewire]

Originally posted by Plastic Master:

Soon this game will be in life support.
Beastyqt just said he doesnt care about battles, because strategy is all about booming and building. He who does this best, must win. So yeah, he wants base-building simulator out of AOEIV and this will kill it.

PVP community is hardly relevant, they represent 0.0001% of the actual playerbase. The game is getting more campaigns and singleplayer stuff. Nobody care about PVP.

[FloosWorld]

Originally posted by TheFibrewire:

Originally posted by Plastic Master:

Soon this game will be in life support.
Beastyqt just said he doesnt care about battles, because strategy is all about booming and building. He who does this best, must win. So yeah, he wants base-building simulator out of AOEIV and this will kill it.

PVP community is hardly relevant, they represent 0.0001% of the actual playerbase. The game is getting more campaigns and singleplayer stuff. Nobody care about PVP.

PVP community is the one most invested into a game and revived the Age franchise in first place back when the Forgotten mod for AoE 2 was released. It was that popular that MS decided to make it AoE 2's first expansion in 13 years.

Originally posted by Plastic Master:

Soon this game will be in life support.
Beastyqt just said he doesnt care about battles, because strategy is all about booming and building. He who does this best, must win. So yeah, he wants base-building simulator out of AOEIV and this will kill it.

We must've watched a different BeastyQT then.

[lima beam]

I really liked the look of storm gate in it's promo material, when I played it not only was I disappointed with the visuals but the gameplay was so average, like a cheap copy of starcraft. I'm sure there are some nuances that make it play differently, but honestly it's first impressions from the 5ish games I played were so miserable I just quit and have no interest in playing the game again. AOE4 is so much better than any other RTS on the market. It looks better, plays better, it's audio is unmatched - if it get's another DLC this year / early next year, it's going to solidify itself as an all-timer.

[76561199223715026]

Originally posted by Automaton 32:

Originally posted by Plastic Master:

Soon this game will be in life support.
Beastyqt just said he doesnt care about battles, because strategy is all about booming and building. He who does this best, must win. So yeah, he wants base-building simulator out of AOEIV and this will kill it.

He wants marco to be important, and for micro to not be the desideing factor, both should be balanced, and he thinks they are.

Indeed. You can't win by a-moving in this game. Besides all the positional micro, the formation micro, the kiting, the focus firing, there's also plenty units with abilities. You'd have to be brain dead not to realize you need to micro in this game to stand a chance. I mean in plastic league ofc you don't know there is micro.

[Plastic Master]

Paid discussion to promote AOEIV lol.
And as always, the paid troll "Floosworld" is here

[FloosWorld]

Originally posted by Plastic Master:

Paid discussion to promote AOEIV lol.
And as always, the paid troll "Floosworld" is here

As explained in another thread, I get extra money from each post you make. I already earnt 3000 this months only because of your posts. So keep going, I need it for my cashflow. /s

[RicoPolaris]

AOE4 maybe "not enough good"

But SG should be "bad"