Is Age of Empires IV ever going to release more civs?

[haploki]

I have to say I'm less than thrilled with this iteration of Age of Empires. I grew up on the first 3 loving working my way through the many campaigns with many different cultures. This one seems like it's just another battle royal money grab with zero substance beyond the base campaigns. Only so many times you can play them through. And let's face it, other human beings tend to suck the fun out of multiplayer game-play unless your running a LAN party with people you know. Where are the new cultures? Exactly why did I waste my money if they are never coming?

[Bubs]

2 more in next thing i heard, i don't know where i heard it, but thought it was the devs.

[FloosWorld]

Originally posted by haploki:

I have to say I'm less than thrilled with this iteration of Age of Empires. I grew up on the first 3 loving working my way through the many campaigns with many different cultures. This one seems like it's just another battle royal money grab with zero substance beyond the base campaigns. Only so many times you can play them through. And let's face it, other human beings tend to suck the fun out of multiplayer game-play unless your running a LAN party with people you know. Where are the new cultures? Exactly why did I waste my money if they are never coming?

New civs take time to develop. It isn't like AoE 2 with HD and DE where the dev team started as modders for that game thus now can easily make new ones.
The original AoE 3 e.g. started with only 8 civs, it took them one year to add another 3 with the WarChiefs addon and another 3 came the year after with Asian Dynasties. I assume AoE 4 will do something similar.

[[6thR.S.] TartanClad]

I wouldn't say you wasted your money. You have 10 civilisations with unique gameplay, tactics and aesthetics, plus 4 campaigns.

The original Age of Empires 2 had 11 civilisations, which shared only 4 cultural aesthetics (making them largely copies of one another) and largely played the same way except for some special modifiers, as well as 5 campaigns.

This was only broadened after the HD edition came out over a decade later and started bringing out paid expansions.

All in all, if you take the amount of effort put into each faction, AoE4 has certainly matched AoE2 in terms of early content in my opinion. You can expect more civilisations over time and hopefully more campaigns too, I'm sure.

[FloosWorld]

Originally posted by 6thR.S. TartanClad:

I wouldn't say you wasted your money. You have 10 civilisations with unique gameplay, tactics and aesthetics, plus 4 campaigns.

The original Age of Empires 2 had 11 civilisations, which shared only 4 cultural aesthetics (making them largely copies of one another) and largely played the same way except for some special modifiers, as well as 5 campaigns.

This was only broadened after the HD edition came out over a decade later and started bringing out paid expansions.

You can expect more civilisations over time and hopefully more campaigns too, I'm sure.

Small correction: OG AoE 2 had 13 civs, the 1st addon (The Conquerors) which came out in 2000 added another 5.

[Lotor13]

Originally posted by haploki:

I have to say I'm less than thrilled with this iteration of Age of Empires. I grew up on the first 3...
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...Where are the new cultures? Exactly why did I waste my money if they are never coming?

Do You remember/played original Age of Empires 3?
Not Definitive edition, without expansions

[2GenL]

Originally posted by FloosWorld:

Originally posted by haploki:

I have to say I'm less than thrilled with this iteration of Age of Empires. I grew up on the first 3 loving working my way through the many campaigns with many different cultures. This one seems like it's just another battle royal money grab with zero substance beyond the base campaigns. Only so many times you can play them through. And let's face it, other human beings tend to suck the fun out of multiplayer game-play unless your running a LAN party with people you know. Where are the new cultures? Exactly why did I waste my money if they are never coming?

New civs take time to develop. It isn't like AoE 2 with HD and DE where the dev team started as modders for that game thus now can easily make new ones.
The original AoE 3 e.g. started with only 8 civs, it took them one year to add another 3 with the WarChiefs addon and another 3 came the year after with Asian Dynasties. I assume AoE 4 will do something similar.

Even when aoe2 originally released, it had loads of civs (not just enough to count on one hand)

[FloosWorld]

Originally posted by 2GenL:

Originally posted by FloosWorld:

New civs take time to develop. It isn't like AoE 2 with HD and DE where the dev team started as modders for that game thus now can easily make new ones.
The original AoE 3 e.g. started with only 8 civs, it took them one year to add another 3 with the WarChiefs addon and another 3 came the year after with Asian Dynasties. I assume AoE 4 will do something similar.

Even when aoe2 originally released, it had loads of civs (not just enough to count on one hand)

AoE 2 started with 13 civs, so 5 more than AoE 4, idk how that's "loads of civs".

[PotatoScav]

Japan, if you want weebs money, Japan.

[Ekko Tek]

Originally posted by FloosWorld:

Originally posted by 2GenL:

Even when aoe2 originally released, it had loads of civs (not just enough to count on one hand)

AoE 2 started with 13 civs, so 5 more than AoE 4, idk how that's "loads of civs".

And AoE 2's are way more copy/paste civs than AoE 4's are.

[FloosWorld]

Originally posted by Ekko Tek:

Originally posted by FloosWorld:

AoE 2 started with 13 civs, so 5 more than AoE 4, idk how that's "loads of civs".

And AoE 2's are way more copy/paste civs than AoE 4's are.

On a superficial level, yep - in detail? Nope.

[Sir Moisty Capybara]

all asian aoe2 civs are japan because architecture looks like japan.

aoe2 is copy paste, go play aoe4

[Lotor13]

I just wanted to notice numbers of civs in original AoE games

AoE1 - 12 civs
AoE2 - 12 civs
AoE3 - 8 civs
AoE4 - 8 civs
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AoM is a special case
3 mechanicaly different civilisations
With major and minor gods serving as "subfactions" providing aditional units, technologies and bonuses

[Sir Moisty Capybara]

Originally posted by karoten2:

I just wanted to notice numbers of civs in original AoE games

AoE1 - 12 civs
AoE2 - 12 civs
AoE3 - 8 civs
AoE4 - 8 civs
----
AoM is a special case
3 mechanicaly different civilisations
With major and minor gods serves as "subfactions" providing aditional units, technologies and bonuses

AOE1 (1997)
AOE2 (1998)
AOM (2003)
AOE3 (2005)
AOE4 (2021)

[FloosWorld]

Originally posted by Sir Moisty Capybara:

Originally posted by karoten2:

I just wanted to notice numbers of civs in original AoE games

AoE1 - 12 civs
AoE2 - 12 civs
AoE3 - 8 civs
AoE4 - 8 civs
----
AoM is a special case
3 mechanicaly different civilisations
With major and minor gods serves as "subfactions" providing aditional units, technologies and bonuses

AOE1 (1997)
AOE2 (1999)
AOM (2002)
AOE3 (2005)
AOE4 (2021)

Release year tells absolutely nothing for this kind of game.

[Sir Moisty Capybara]

Originally posted by FloosWorld:

Originally posted by Sir Moisty Capybara:

AOE1 (1997)
AOE2 (1999)
AOM (2002)
AOE3 (2005)
AOE4 (2021)

Release year tells absolutely nothing for this kind of game.

so you are saying that year of production tells nothing about
- player expectations
- tools available for devs
- hardware available both for players and devs?

release year tells way more than you want to admit.

ed:
yes. I made mistake, RoR was released at 1998; still show how much time was between installments and how much progress in actual dev tools, work pipelines and other progressed.

doesn't change fact that Relic had tons of time to made game (AoE4 first info was released in 2017) compared to 2 y development cycle of AoE2.