Maps all look the same.

[vsatyk]

Maps all look the same. Dry Arabia looks nothing like "Dry Arabia". Seems like its either water or no water.

[Thunder]

What is the point of your post other than the "opinion" that dry arabia looks like black forest and archipelago?

[Thunder]

Originally posted by vsatyk:

Talk about having low standards in map design. I guess you're ok with it thats good. Move on then?

Maps:

Dry Arabia - Low trees, mostly open, no water
Lipany - Some stealth forests, cliffs, no water
High View - Hilly, a lot of stealth forest, no water
Mountain Pass - Map divided in 2 sides by central mountain range with choke point
Ancient Spire - Tall spires create choke points, small lakes throughout
Danube River - 2 sides divided by a U-shape river and a cliff
Black Forest - Heavily treed, many choke points, small lakes near bases, no sacred site
Mongolian Heights - Plateaus and Valleys, sides separated by river
Altai - Many mountains create choke points, no water
Confluence - Crossing rivers create an x and 4 sections
French Pass - Mountains create a high resource central valley, no water
Hill and Dale - players starts on own plateau, many resources outside of plateau, no water
King of the Hill - Open map with center resource rich plateau, 1 sacred site, no water
Waring Islands - A lot of water with islands, teams start on same island
Archipelago - A lot of water with islands, each player starts on own island
Nagari - large central lake to contest sided by 2 mountain ranges, small corner ponds
Boulder Bay - Large U-shaped bay, opponents still connected by land

Every map also has all 8 "Biomes" to choose from to change appearance:

European Temperate
Taiga Summer
Taiga Winter
Steppes
Gobi Desert
Asian Temperate
Chalk Downs
Asian Subtropical

Each map also has 5 map sizes:

Micro
Small
Medium
Large
Gigantic

What option would you like added to not have a low standard for map design?

[MustardTiger]

Originally posted by lynpinette:

What is the point of your post other than the "opinion" that dry arabia looks like black forest and archipelago?

Obviously he's exaggerating when he says they "all look the same" and no one is saying that dry arabia looks the same as archipelago.

But the maps do look similar. Not their layouts (which you made a list of) but the way the environments look. He's right about "dry arabia" - there is no desert sand it's covered in grass regardless of which biome you pick with it. IMO the biomes don't make nearly enough of a difference and I think that's what he's talking about. The snow options don't really add much snow for example.

Don't really see the point of your reply trying to make him look stupid by saying he thinks arabia looks the same as archipelago but nice summary of how each map is laid out lol...

[Thunder]

Originally posted by Fatsquatch:

Originally posted by lynpinette:

What is the point of your post other than the "opinion" that dry arabia looks like black forest and archipelago?

Obviously he's exaggerating when he says they "all look the same" and no one is saying that dry arabia looks the same as archipelago.

But the maps do look similar. Not their layouts (which you made a list of) but the way the environments look. He's right about "dry arabia" - there is no desert sand it's covered in grass regardless of which biome you pick with it. IMO the biomes don't make nearly enough of a difference and I think that's what he's talking about. The snow options don't really add much snow for example.

Don't really see the point of your reply trying to make him look stupid by saying he thinks arabia looks the same as archipelago but nice summary of how each map is laid out lol...

That is not accurate, go check Dry Arabia with the desert biome. Not covered in grass, obviously a few trees because the game needs wood. Other biomes have varied amount of grass and how dry it looks.

My reply was because I read "all maps look the same" to mean he was saying all maps look the same. His water or no water comment also suggested only 2 map options.

[Sir Moisty Capybara]

Originally posted by vsatyk:

Maps all look the same. Dry Arabia looks nothing like "Dry Arabia". Seems like its either water or no water.

Type is one thing, biome (where comes all visual flares) another. But yes, it's pretty weird to have Dry Arabia on Steppes biome, but if you ask me, I like biome thingy - it would be nice to code that feature in RMS system of AoE2, but in the other hand, map creator can just provide 4 - 5 rms with biome settings.

[TheDiaper]

Originally posted by Sir Rage A Lot:

Type is one thing, biome (where comes all visual flares) another. But yes, it's pretty weird to have Dry Arabia on Steppes biome, but if you ask me, I like biome thingy - it would be nice to code that feature in RMS system of AoE2, but in the other hand, map creator can just provide 4 - 5 rms with biome settings.

Its already in aoe2.

EDIT: Well you cant manually select it, but you can add it to the map script to randomize it.

[Sir Moisty Capybara]

Originally posted by A Jerking Ape:

Originally posted by Sir Rage A Lot:

Type is one thing, biome (where comes all visual flares) another. But yes, it's pretty weird to have Dry Arabia on Steppes biome, but if you ask me, I like biome thingy - it would be nice to code that feature in RMS system of AoE2, but in the other hand, map creator can just provide 4 - 5 rms with biome settings.

Its already in aoe2.

EDIT: Well you cant manually select it, but you can add it to the map script to randomize it.

I know, that why I said "in the other hand".

[MustardTiger]

Originally posted by lynpinette:

Originally posted by Fatsquatch:

Obviously he's exaggerating when he says they "all look the same" and no one is saying that dry arabia looks the same as archipelago.

But the maps do look similar. Not their layouts (which you made a list of) but the way the environments look. He's right about "dry arabia" - there is no desert sand it's covered in grass regardless of which biome you pick with it. IMO the biomes don't make nearly enough of a difference and I think that's what he's talking about. The snow options don't really add much snow for example.

Don't really see the point of your reply trying to make him look stupid by saying he thinks arabia looks the same as archipelago but nice summary of how each map is laid out lol...

That is not accurate, go check Dry Arabia with the desert biome. Not covered in grass, obviously a few trees because the game needs wood. Other biomes have varied amount of grass and how dry it looks.

My reply was because I read "all maps look the same" to mean he was saying all maps look the same. His water or no water comment also suggested only 2 map options.

Dry Arabia is covered in grass on "Gobi Desert" and on "Steppe" biomes.

[Thunder]

Originally posted by Fatsquatch:

Dry Arabia is covered in grass on "Gobi Desert" and on "Steppe" biomes.

I looked at "Gobi Desert" and I guess we have different opinions on the definition of covered. There is very little grass(more like dried shrubs) and a lot of sand. Even "Steppe" the grass is patchy and not consistent.

[MustardTiger]

Originally posted by lynpinette:

Originally posted by Fatsquatch:

Dry Arabia is covered in grass on "Gobi Desert" and on "Steppe" biomes.

I looked at "Gobi Desert" and I guess we have different opinions on the definition of covered. There is very little grass(more like dried shrubs) and a lot of sand. Even "Steppe" the grass is patchy and not consistent.

Some areas are patchy most are covered in grass... Also no oasis or palm trees for "dry arabia" just nice big spruce forests lol it doesn't look like an arabian desert in the slightest.

Like I said the biomes don't change much.. steppe and gobi look exactly the same but gobi has patches of dirt and steppe has patches of rocky stuff.

[Thunder]

Originally posted by vsatyk:

Originally posted by lynpinette:

I looked at "Gobi Desert" and I guess we have different opinions on the definition of covered. There is very little grass(more like dried shrubs) and a lot of sand. Even "Steppe" the grass is patchy and not consistent.

I think you're over thinking this. Just type in dry arabia or gobi desert in image search; you might understand what I mean. Yes I know there are limitations with the map engine and what/not but its just not what I had in mind is all. I was just expecting my camels riding through blinding sands not strolling through city park.

I did look at pictures and many from the Arabian peninsula look just like dry Arabia on the desert setting (with patchy dry shrubs and grass). As well as some pictures of the Gobi desert. I understand though you were expecting the endless sand dune parts of the desert.

[Thunder]

Originally posted by Fatsquatch:

Originally posted by lynpinette:

I looked at "Gobi Desert" and I guess we have different opinions on the definition of covered. There is very little grass(more like dried shrubs) and a lot of sand. Even "Steppe" the grass is patchy and not consistent.

Some areas are patchy most are covered in grass... Also no oasis or palm trees for "dry arabia" just nice big spruce forests lol it doesn't look like an arabian desert in the slightest.

Like I said the biomes don't change much.. steppe and gobi look exactly the same but gobi has patches of dirt and steppe has patches of rocky stuff.

I agree the trees could be changed.

I would not say most is covered in grass for Dry Arabia on desert.

[Elriadon]

There's no actual "Arabian Desert" biome, there's only the Chinese Gobi Desert climate.

Though the trees don't really fit regardless.

[Salamimann]

what a TROLL

[0ldschool]

Originally posted by lynpinette:

What is the point of your post other than the "opinion" that dry arabia looks like black forest and archipelago?

You are in every single post about this game always defending it lol. if its so good go play it and let other people dislike it if they choose